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Went through 2 razer blackwidow ultimates from newegg, both defective with bad keyfeel and backlighting, returned.

Went through 2 das professional S silent from newegg, both with severe cosmetic issues with the shiny glossy casing, scratches and smudges that cant be removed. In the process of making a return for refund back to newegg.

Losing 20 bucks on shipping going through these 4, but I am unhindered.

I will now be buying either a filco or a leopold.

A few questions...

1) Whats the best place to order a filco or leopold from? I was thinking:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Keyboard-FKBN104M-EB2/dp/B004VKUSG6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308452823&sr=8-1"]Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch-2, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard FKBN104M/EB2: Keyboard Co UK[/ame]
or
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-ASCII-Switch-FKBN104MR/dp/B004OX4HWG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1308452823&sr=8-2"]Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch-2 NKR 104 ASCII with Red Switch, USA FKBN104MR/EB2: Electronics[/ame]

But i never heard of this UK company distributing for the us... any better solutions out there?

2) Between filco and leopold whats better? I know theyre probably from the same factory but still...

3) The DAS keyboard S models have LAZERED on keys that dont wear off for a very very long time.

The Filco keyboards have had some reviews stating that the painted on key writing wears off in MONTHS of heavy usage. Is this a problem?

4) Between Brown and Red switches...whats the difference in feel? I hated the blues cause the clicking was too annoying, and the browns feel perfect to me.

What can I expect if I go from brown to red for gaming and typing both equally?
post #2 of 8
I bought a few keyboards from both Amazon and KeyboardCo (direct) and never have any problem with either one.

Also I have both but I prefer Filco over Leopold due to quality (Filco just feels that much better).

Last, brown is tactile and red is linear so it's a matter of preference. It's difficult to tell you which to choose since I don't know your typing habit. You'll just have to try them out for yourself.
Edited by reaper~ - 6/18/11 at 8:37pm
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when I type i tend to bottom out almost every key anyways, and gaming of course also.

Would this mean reds would serve better? what about blacks?

I am looking to get either:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Majestouch-2-Tactile-Keyboard-FKBN104M-EFB2/dp/B004Z0XR2O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1308476064&sr=8-3"]Amazon.com: Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard FKBN104M/EFB2: Keyboard Co UK[/ame]

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Majestouch-2-Linear-Keyboard-FKBN104ML-EFB2/dp/B004Z0XSAA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1308476064&sr=8-5"]Amazon.com: Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, NKR, Linear Action, USA Keyboard FKBN104ML/EFB2: Keyboard Co UK[/ame]

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-ASCII-Switch-FKBN104MR/dp/B004OX4HWG/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1308476064&sr=8-7"]Amazon.com: Filco Majestouch-2 NKR 104 ASCII with Red Switch, USA FKBN104MR/EB2: Electronics[/ame]

Filco ninja brown or black, or alternatively filco mag 2 reds.

I need it equally for gaming and typing, and like I said I tend to be a heavy typer 50% of the time.

At night I try to type without making any noise on my das brown switch by not hitting the bottom, and it works very very well.

Is typing silently possible on a linear switch?
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Hm, I was planning to start a whole thread with my recent experience w/ Red vs. Brown switches. But I can probably condense it here. smile.gif

Of course, it all comes down to user preference in the end. But for me, turns out that I greatly prefer the Red switch for gaming, because it's a very light switch, and so in games I don't need much movement to drive a car in GTA or strife in CS:S. It's a really awesome feeling. Typing gets some getting used to, when you're coming from a black-ish ; at first I tried to type very lightly, but now I'm falling back on my old habit of bottoming out. The sound is a light 'click,' and it never gets on my nerves.

Browns were great with typing, because when I bottomed out (which was always), that mid-way tactile feeling felt reassuring. However, in games I found it completely awful to work with. But it could be because I was getting used to the Red when the Browns came in. But anyway, that bump in the switch made it impossible to do those light, linear key depresses that I was starting to like so much. There was too much friction during the tactile part, so lightly pressing on any key made it very noticeable. It was especially apparent when I used the 'Ctrl' and 'Shift' key.

So I discovered that the Reds were the more natural all-around switch for me. The lightness of the switch is very light indeed, but not having any resistance anywhere during a keystroke is what mattered to me the most in the end.

P.S. Don't get Blacks if you plan to type out any decently-long essays. With the ABS M1 (not exactly using the Cherry MX Black switches, but similar), it fatigued my fingers after half an hour to the point where it was annoying to type any further.
    
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I can't speak regarding brown vs. red, but I can shed some light on brown vs. black. I definitely like black better, even for typing. Brown seems too light for me, which leads to too many accidental presses.
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^ I've never had any problems with accidental presses on browns.. Maybe you have heavier fingers?

A lot of people seem to hate blacks for typing. Browns are a safer way to go for a good all-rounding keyboard
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Originally Posted by Limniscate;13928229 
I can't speak regarding brown vs. red, but I can shed some light on brown vs. black. I definitely like black better, even for typing. Brown seems too light for me, which leads to too many accidental presses.

I also love blacks for typing and gaming alot more than browns. I just couldnt get used to such light force required
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I don't mean to hijack but is it just me or is it impossible to click "Add to Cart" for the links in the OP and the one here: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-Keyboard-FKBN87M-EFB2/dp/B004ZJPSGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1308598784&sr=8-1"]Amazon.com: Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard FKBN87M/EFB2: Everything Else[/ame]

I specifically want the tenkeyless I just posted but there's no means to add it to cart. At least one of the links in the OP you can do "2 new and used" and from the new page click Add to Cart, but not the case for the other items.
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