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Hi, i guess im kinda new to the OC deal, i use to OC on my old p4, and i have had my Q9650 for a few years now and want to oc it. Im currently running a Asus Striker II extreme mobo with it with a stock cpu fan in a thermal take armor case loaded with fans. Any guide lines?
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Okay well I have a q9450, so our processors are similar your's just has like 2 extra multipliers on it. You have the best motherboard for this overclocking as well and your case is substancial, I just want to know two things before I go into specifics do you really have stock heatsink, and do you have a fan for your northbridge. This is really important as when you push your cpu up past 4ghz's your going to need to really push your northbridge voltages for stability and without a northbridge fan its a no go but with a good northbridge fan you can push the voltages on your northbridge crazy and still be safe 24/7.
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Only for the sake of accuracy...

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Originally Posted by julabask View Post
You have one of the best motherboard for this overclocking
Fixed.

Carry on.
Edited by SyveRson - 6/19/11 at 12:56am
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Okay fine, but I'll tell you right now the person with the best 3dmark11 score with your processor has your motherboard. http://3dmark.com/3dm11/818353
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i have stock cpu hs/fan and no fan on north bridge, but im buying new ram, vid card, and psu. And regardign ram on this mob since u seem familiar, currently got 1333mhz 2x2gb, im looking to go to 2x4gb and the board max is 1333, but 1600 and 2000mhz at oc, so with that the new ram do i buy at 1333 or 1600/2000, and wat hs/fan and nb fan do you recommend. and for now where could i start
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Okay so the main goal to overclocking is you really have to do some trial and error. Sometimes your computer will crash, or you'll have to hard reset your bios till you find a good setting but that is part of the experience. There are 3 really important voltages to push your CPU voltage, FSB voltage, and northbridge voltage. Memory voltage doesn't usually need to be pushed unless you overclock it, but I have heard that sometimes an extra 1/10 of a volt from the stock might be nessessary for a real heavy overclock even with stock memory settings. Southbridge I never have to tough I keep it at stock is fine. For your CPU voltage, I recommend never to push it more then 1.3625v after vdroop (in idle) in the OS, probably 1.35v as max for 24/7 use. Vdroop is the difference of the voltage read by your os and what is set by the bios, your voltage can also drop when your onload compared to idle. There are many tricks and settings that bios's have to try to prevent this. I don't have your bios so I don't know if you have any settings to help. The next biggest thing I have learned for your processor is memory, you seem to have low fsb memory for DDR3. Well faster memory can help not only with the total performance of your cpu in many tests but as well with achieving higher overclocks stabily. I have found at least with my q9450 that dram/fsb ratio's matter a lot. Many people say that it doesn't and it depends from motherboard to motherboard, the most important thing to do is first test your processor overclock with your memory at stock. Find its capable range, once you know where your processor can reach then with that overclock set your memory to a 1:1 Dram/fsb ratio and tighten your timmings on your memory for better performance. 1:1 is not always the best it worked for me so you also want to test 1:2, 2:3, 3:4 ect till you find a really good one. Finding a really good one will speed up your memory and cpu performance and cause better stability. You'll find after you find good settings you might even be able to push your processor more then you initially could with your memory at stock. Final thing it took me a while to figure what this is about but there is an ldt frequency setting on your computer for overclocking, set it to 4x for anything between 201-250 fsb (per multiplier), 3x for anything between 251-333 fsb (per multiplier), 2x 334-500 fsb (per multiplier) for max stability. Why because this is what sets your hypertransport speeds and intel does best if you never push it above 1000 so always set the multiplier to something that will make your fsb x ldt frequency multiplier to be less then 1000. Setting it too low like always 1x for stock will cause instability issues as well.
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post #7 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by julabask View Post
Okay fine, but I'll tell you right now the person with the best 3dmark11 score with your processor has your motherboard. http://3dmark.com/3dm11/818353
That score has nothing to do with Asus Striker II Extreme motherboard but with the fact that it has been done with 2x overclocked GTX580..

I have scored P6003 with a single GTX480 and Q9550 @ 4.3GHz on a Asus P5Q Pro (P45) motherboard..

Still that Asus Striker II extreme should OC that Q9650 @ over 4GHz easily if OP manages to cool that CPU under 75C..


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post #8 of 25
If you want to do memory correctly for this computer your best bet is to calculate what memory would run at a good 1:1 or for you with ddr2 you you could even do 2:1 dram/fsb ratio with the tightest timmings. Now one note if you want the best OC, its hard to reach with 8gb's, 4gb's usually gives you better speed and memory OC capabilities. But since your ddr3 you actually should have no problem reaching 1:1 ratio with 8 or 4gb's. So for example, you do not want to buy lets say memory that 1600 9-9-9-27-2t vs 1333 7-7-7-21-2t, because the cas latency on the 1333 is so much better then the 1600 resulting in the 1600 to actually be slower, 1600/9=177, 1333/7=190. Also you want to take into consideration in doing some research on the chip and find what company manufactures the memory chip, not the entire memory stick. For example gskill sells many memory sticks some might have prodos chips in them or something else. Certain chips like prodos make high end chips and are known to be good overclockers while others are not. Another thing voltage, lower voltage isn't always better, what is most important is how much the card is capable of being pushed without getting hurt is important and will result in more overclocking room. I'll go on newegg and reccomend a good pair for you, but I want to know your price range, and if you want 8 or 4 gigs as 1, 2 or 4 sticks
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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post #9 of 25
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post #10 of 25
Yeah I do agree with you that a q9650 should be able to be pushed upward to 4.6-4.7ghz with a good mb, but other factor's exist as well, but your mb already fails to be recomendded because your p45 and can't do sli, you should be doing ati so you can dual your gpu's why waste your money on nvidia and leave yourself no room to improve. If you want to compare p45's to nvidia forceware mb's I am sure I could find a slew of better p45's, but all in all those few extra hundred mhz probably will not make up for the SLI loss.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x western digital black 1tb raid 0 random dvd-rw/cd-rw 22x which somehow uses ata windows 7 64 + linux ubuntu spectre 24inch 
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