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Yep, the silicon lottery is also a factor here. I think this is the same with the 2600k. I heard that the ones from costa rica or some place like that don't clock as well at the malay chips.
    
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Yep, the silicon lottery is also a factor here. I think this is the same with the 2600k. I heard that the ones from costa rica or some place like that don't clock as well at the malay chips.
My CR clocks much better than my Malaysia i2500k.
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Then it's the other way round? :S I have a Malay chip... don't scare me.
    
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Like I said I personally don´t care about slot spacing and noise as long as the card will overclock well.


I mean there has to be a reason why people said the Matrix would overclock much better than the Lightning (putting chip influence out of consideration of course) and perform better.
You might not care about slot spacing but remember that you are going to sell it in the future. When a new GPU comes out the only one's buying old GPU's are the 1's who are Crossfiring doing SLI or those who cant afford having a new one and prefer buying a used top-end GPU...
Taking in consideration that the reports about Southern Island GPU's say that they will have the same performance as today's 2 way Crossfire or SLI solutions, and if that is true. Your target market probably wont be looking for a triple slot cooler.
So if your going to sell it, you might not care about the triple slot... But you will when you trying to sell it and people answer.
Its way too big!
Keep the MSI, good performance and it shall be easier to sell in the future.

Like you said the chip takes care of 60% of the overclock, who do you think provides Asus and MSI with the chips? Both those cards are ready for some great overclocking, you just gotta be lucky like any other CPU.
Might get a good one with great OC capabilities... Might get a terrible one...
Edited by Tokkan - 6/26/11 at 4:13am
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Is it possible that the Lightning shows better overclockability in reviews because MSI cherrypicks the samples sent to reviewers, whereas Asus does not? Rather than some sort of design difference?

On the other hand, does MSI test and "bin" its GPU cores, reserving the best for the Lightning, but maybe Asus does not? Does anyone know?
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What I just don´t like is all the hype and predictions about the Matrix...and what now?

Every review done with it ...did not achieve a 900MHZ+ overclock with the card which is pretty damn sad actually.
not this review...970MHz at 1.213v, 950MHz at 1.15v...
http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-mat...w/12682-6.html
post #38 of 38
I vote for the Lightning, not only is it cheaper but the dual fan is more practical, the triple voltage control in afterburner is good.

Overclocking wise probably not much in it. You'll be able to overclock the memory more because of the voltage options. I have mine running at 1000 core and 4800MHZ DDR5. I can bench @ 1012MHZ core but not 100% stable for 24/7 gaming
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