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You do realize how long a bottle of PT Nuke lasts ? One bottle has 10 ml and recommended dosage is 1 or 2 drops of PT Nuke / 1 l of water. According to Wikipedia 20 drops is about 1 ml ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_%28volume%29 ) so a 10 ml bottle of PT Nuke equals 200 drops. If you use 1 drop / liter you can handle 200 liters of water, even with 2 drops / liter you can handle 100 liters of water. If someone needs to keep buying more PT Nuke all the time then they are using it for something else than normal PC water cooling.
Maybe some people use way more as prescribed.
Whole bottle at once and the forget about it.
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proof of what? it's chemistry, silver reacts with oxygen
And crap grows without one faster than silver will tarnish.
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Maybe some people use way more as prescribed.
Whole bottle at once and the forget about it.
That would be bad. You'd more likely corrode the waterblock and barbs.
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You see, we add the silver coil for its anti microbial benefits. i.e. We don't want green water .

Although it may react with the oxygen dissolved in the water solution, the availability of oxygen in the solution is not nearly high enough for it to actually pose a threat to loop itself.

Why the silver kills? When placed within water, or a varying degree of solutions, very small trace amounts of silver will dissolve into solution to form Ag+ ions. It is these ions which prove beneficial to us as a tool against bacterial growth. What they do in fact, is they hamper, and destroy enzymes vital to the function of a cell by bonding to them and ruining their catalytic properties. They make it so that the bacteria are unable to intake oxygen, shutting down cellular activity. You see, this is because enzymes are essential for organisms to exist, as they lower the activation energies of several key chemical reactions which are necessary for organisms to live, and by taking away that catalytic advantage, vital chemical interactions which otherwise would be caring on, cease to properly function. Thus, the organism dies. And overclockers everywhere rejoice!

The actual interactions are a bit more complex, but that's just a quick little summary.


Anywhom, I hope that helped!

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Edited by InF3Rnus - 6/19/11 at 12:24pm
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Pure water, H2O is a very stable and very strong bonded compound, so i dont think the silver would have a chance to take it away from the Hydrogen, and IF it did form silver oxide, the hydrogen could prove dangerous
    
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post #26 of 37
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proof of what? it's chemistry, silver reacts with oxygen
ur right..

but people tend to overthink the math, and use the most hostile conditions when doing there EQ's.

So it turns out that silver will corrodie imediately, when the fact that t = time is typicaly played out in decades.

Also i use silver to control the foul smell of water, or growth in which the water may have.
Cynobacter, is an anarobic bacteria, that can grow in almost any conditions, and its NASTY.

The easiest way to stop it, is to kill its replication cycle, and the best way to do that is by introducing silver ions so u mess up RNA transcription in that nasty cell.
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post #27 of 37
The real question is, how much is EK paying you to come to a forum and try to deceive people into believing this crap?

Ever since the EK debacle, there have been numorous threads pertaining to how Silver Kill coils are the devil.
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I just pulled out a 1957 silver dime that I pulled out of circulation a couple of years ago and threw it on my digital scale that is accurate to 0.01 grams. It's original weight in 1957 - 2.5 grams...its weight today in 2011 - 2.50 grams. (I was actually surprised that it hadn't lost any weight due to wear but there you go)

'Nuff said.

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The real question is, how much is EK paying you to come to a forum and try to deceive people into believing this crap?

Ever since the EK debacle, there have been numorous threads pertaining to how Silver Kill coils are the devil.
I've been out of the loop (pun intended). What is this EK debacle of which you speak?
Edited by RaBidRaBit - 6/20/11 at 11:47am
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post #29 of 37
thats because that silver coin when oxidizes forms tarnish, which is actually a protective layer on itself.. to further hinder more oxidation.
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I just pulled out a 1957 silver dime that I pulled out of circulation a couple of years ago and threw it on my digital scale that is accurate to 0.01 grams. It's original weight in 1957 - 2.5 grams...its weight today in 2011 - 2.50 grams. (I was actually surprised that it hadn't lost any weight due to wear but there you go)

'Nuff said.



I've been out of the loop (pun intended). What is this EK debacle of which you speak?
Well, i suppose you could start here: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...ek-nickel.html

Then google "EK Nickel Plating Problems" and see the results that turn up.
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