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AVIs, MP4s, WMVs, MKVs, MOVs, FLVs etc.
I have watched everything, everyday (put on Rifftrax movies to fall asleep to), for 2-3 years without one single crash. And honestly, your post was the very first time I've ever seen someone trash it. All I need in a movie player are subtitle options, aspect options, and audio channel options. VLC has all of those and plays virtually everything in existence. No offense, but your claim that it's the "ABSOLUTE WORST" is complete BS. Worse than WMP? I don't think so.

As I said, that's coming from my personal experience with VLC. You didn't encounter any problems? Good for you! However, there are people who are really happy I converted them to MPC. The rigs I encountered these problems on are... Let me think... Right, the first time was ~6-7 years ago, on my sigrig... Well, it was running on a 2.4GHz Craperon and 512MB RAM back then, but still. A couple of years later there was at least one school PC, IIRC a 2.6GHz P4 with otherwise similar specs, exhibiting similar symptoms. Then, more recently there was my friend's C2D laptop... and his friend's C2D laptop biggrin.gif Didn't really bother to check the precise specs. IIRC the stickers suggested 2GB RAM, though. Again, massive artifacting, random freezes upon jumping to a certain part in the video. And no, there were no other resource-consuming processes running at the time.
My most recent encounter with a failure from VLC was during a presentations seminar in university. A group mate was delivering a presentation and wanted to show us a short video clip. Well, whaddya know, some artifacting at the beginning and some stuttering in the middle, followed by a complete freeze when she tried to skip the stuttery part. Since WMP didn't have the codecs and there were no other players installed, she had to make do without the video. Now that's what I call a failure. No, not the presentation. Yes, the software smile.gif It might sound like the file was corrupted, but she later reassured me that it was working just fine on her rig back home. She was using some obscure player, the name of which escapes me.

That concludes my horror stories regarding VLC biggrin.gif If you're one of The Chosen - good for you, use it to your heart's content, but if, at some point, you DO experience crappy playback, know that you're not alone...

...and that you ought to try out a different player smile.gif


Oh, and regarding WMP, it's actually not THAT bad. Let me put it this way: WMP lacks features and is a tad uncomfortable to navigate, but at least it works fine (albeit after installing a crapload of codecs and plug-ins). VLC has decent compatibility and a nice array of features, but it can't even play the videos properly! lachen.gif Thus, in my book, WMP still edges ahead of VLC as a video player. If your experience with them is different, I guess it's useless to try to persuade you - after all, everyone has different needs and tastes.
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As I said, that's coming from my personal experience with VLC. You didn't encounter any problems? Good for you! However, there are people who are really happy I converted them to MPC. The rigs I encountered these problems on are... Let me think... Right, the first time was ~6-7 years ago, on my sigrig... Well, it was running on a 2.4GHz Craperon and 512MB RAM back then, but still. A couple of years later there was at least one school PC, IIRC a 2.6GHz P4 with otherwise similar specs, exhibiting similar symptoms. Then, more recently there was my friend's C2D laptop... and his friend's C2D laptop Didn't really bother to check the precise specs. IIRC the stickers suggested 2GB RAM, though. Again, massive artifacting, random freezes upon jumping to a certain part in the video. And no, there were no other resource-consuming processes running at the time.
My most recent encounter with a failure from VLC was during a presentations seminar in university. A group mate was delivering a presentation and wanted to show us a short video clip. Well, whaddya know, some artifacting at the beginning and some stuttering in the middle, followed by a complete freeze when she tried to skip the stuttery part. Since WMP didn't have the codecs and there were no other players installed, she had to make do without the video. Now that's what I call a failure. No, not the presentation. Yes, the software It might sound like the file was corrupted, but she later reassured me that it was working just fine on her rig back home. She was using some obscure player, the name of which escapes me.

That concludes my horror stories regarding VLC If you're one of The Chosen - good for you, use it to your heart's content, but if, at some point, you DO experience crappy playback, know that you're not alone...

...and that you ought to try out a different player


Oh, and regarding WMP, it's actually not THAT bad. Let me put it this way: WMP lacks features and is a tad uncomfortable to navigate, but at least it works fine (albeit after installing a crapload of codecs and plug-ins). VLC has decent compatibility and a nice array of features, but it can't even play the videos properly! Thus, in my book, WMP still edges ahead of VLC as a video player. If your experience with them is different, I guess it's useless to try to persuade you - after all, everyone has different needs and tastes.

And yet I know a few dozen people who've been using VLC with no problem for 3 years. Every piece of software has some problems that arise with some people, but on the whole I think it's safe to assume that more people have problems with WMP than with VLC.
Really your story about the presentation.. if the file just wouldn't work, the file either got corrupted while being moved, or the VLC installation itself was corrupted. Also, most of your examples seem to stem on versions of the software that existed 5-6 years ago on single core processors. That's hardly relevant; 5-6 years is ancient in computer terms.
I don't have any doubt that some people have had problems with VLC, but dismissing the software on a whole and calling it broken or whatnot is unhelpful. Let people at least try it. I love that I can just double-click any video file I encounter and I'll KNOW it can play without any hassle.
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Also, most of your examples seem to stem on versions of the software that existed 5-6 years ago on single core processors. That's hardly relevant; 5-6 years is ancient in computer terms.
Last time I checked C2D meant two cores Those happened ~1-1,5 years ago. The uni desktop must've also been at least a c2d, judging from the look of the case. And it wasn't the file's fault; as I said, it worked w/o a hitch on the original system even after being transferred to the flash drive. I won't deny the possibility of a screwed up installation, though. We all know how public systems are
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I love that I can just double-click any video file I encounter and I'll KNOW it can play without any hassle.
Same here. the only difference is that I use MPC. Plays everything without a hitch.
And in regard to dismissing the the whole thing... Let me put it this way, if you had several mobos/gpus/etc. from the same manufacturer fail in a row, would you REALLY give someone advice, like "hey, if you're looking for a new GPU, try this one out. I had to RMA 5 of them, but no biggie, it might work for you!" ? Sure, the example is a bit hyperbolized, but the basic idea is the same. I won't advise anyone to use the software I've had only disappointing encounters with.

Oh, and please let me add a childish argument as well: [subjective]the VLC icon is HIDEOUS![/subjective]
     
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Last time I checked C2D meant two cores Those happened ~1-1,5 years ago. The uni desktop must've also been at least a c2d, judging from the look of the case. And it wasn't the file's fault; as I said, it worked w/o a hitch on the original system even after being transferred to the flash drive. I won't deny the possibility of a screwed up installation, though. We all know how public systems are
Same here. the only difference is that I use MPC. Plays everything without a hitch.
And in regard to dismissing the the whole thing... Let me put it this way, if you had several mobos/gpus/etc. from the same manufacturer fail in a row, would you REALLY give someone advice, like "hey, if you're looking for a new GPU, try this one out. I had to RMA 5 of them, but no biggie, it might work for you!" ? Sure, the example is a bit hyperbolized, but the basic idea is the same. I won't advise anyone to use the software I've had only disappointing encounters with.

Oh, and please let me add a childish argument as well: [subjective]the VLC icon is HIDEOUS![/subjective]
That's fine, it's clear we've both had very different experiences. I just ask that when you tell people to stay clear of VLC you list your own experiences. I'll do the same in reverse.
@ the manufacturer example, I love my MSI GTX 560, but I wouldn't use one of their mobos if I was paid.
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That's fine, it's clear we've both had very different experiences. I just ask that when you tell people to stay clear of VLC you list your own experiences. I'll do the same in reverse.
@ the manufacturer example, I love my MSI GTX 560, but I wouldn't use one of their mobos if I was paid.
Deal Now then, let's get this thread going!
     
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On Windows, I use foobar 2000 and media player classic home cinema.
Same.
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For me it's always been Winamp and will be Winamp
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I use WMP11 for common stuff and VLC for weird stuff
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At the moment I just use wmp10 on vista & it plays FLAC songs with some plugins irrc. Soon to get a good headphones & amp. Should I still get foobar2000? Would the audio quality be any better over wmp10?

thanks
all that changes is what you use to play your music going to foobar from wmp10 isnt going to change the audio quality of your music.

for videos i use KMPlayer, by far the best i've used.
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Winamp just because it works easier with my rainmeter desktop

Ditto.
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