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(Hey guys, I'm not on OCN that much and I was trying to find the correct thread to put this post, so If it's not in its right place, don't hate me for it please... )

So, here it goes:

I have recently graduted from high school and I'm attending college in the fall. I have had a Toshiba laptop for about 2 years now, and it's about shot. I have gotten a good amount of money, and I need a new laptop...

so, here's the main question: "Should I get a 15" MacBook Pro or another high end laptop?"

I really need a light and slim laptop for college. I do A LOT of video/photo editing and I will most likely do film in college. I do a great amount of video calling, so a nice webcam is what I need. I cant have a laptop bigger than 16" because I have recently bought a bookbag that doesnt support any bigger than 16"

I am a long PC user, but I also know a good amount about OS X operating system.

I have found some nice PC's around $1000, but I'm more leaning towards the MBP because it offers everything I need for college.

Now, you might ask, "What is your predicament?

Well, my problem is I don't know if it's worth the money to buy the MBP. Apple overcharges SO much, but from what I've heard, it's worth it? Is it worth it? That's what I need to know.

I've calculated it all up, and what I have found is: If I buy a PC laptop, i will save $400-$500. I get a student discount through my school for buying a MBP, so I can save $200. I am also seling my laptop for an extra $300. That knocks the 15" down to $1299 for me.

I would asume most of OCN hates Apple, but I would love for you guys to look at both sides and not kill me for wantig a MBP

So, should I spend the extra money for the MBP? It is worth it in the long run? Since I do so much video editing and use a webcam a lot, is MBP exactly what I need? PLEASE HELP!!!!

THANK YOU!
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The 13" MBP is by far a very good deal

Take a look around. There's not many offerings of the following:
13 inch screen so its nice and portable
10 hours of battery with a core i5 or core i7
aluminum casing and a very nice display
Apple support! Buy the MBP from an apple store - seriously if you do anything to that machine applecare will suck your wiener to make sure you're happy with it. Its freaking amazing.

Find me another i5/i7 based laptop with 13" screen, 10 hours of battery, and a solid warranty, for about $1300.

The 13" MBP is a great deal

The 15" laptops are a decent amount more money, and a lot heavier... personally I hate them. For the money you might as well get a PC that's going to have a better graphics card in a 15" chasis.... IMO if you want 15" get a PC - apple does one thing right: SMALL FORM FACTOR. That's what they are very good at.

Their 15" and 17" models are horridly overpriced IMO, for what you get... the 13", you get an OS that's different, you wont really have to worry bout OS problems (Apple support will do that for you), and its not that much more expensive than 13" PCs in the same category


Now for 15" PC... you can find a core i7 2600 laptop with name brand from Toshiba or Sony for $800 and a 5 hour battery, harmon kardon speakers, 1080p webcam, and so forth....
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Thanks!

The 15" offers a 2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor, and the 13" offers an2.7GHz dual-core Intel Core i7. You think the quad-core is worth the extra money?

I agree, the 13" is a great deal. But, since Im going to be doing much video editing, you think the quad-core would be better for me? (For faster video rendering.)

If I was to get the 13", I would most likey upgrade to 8GB of RAM...
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For $1800 or so that you would pay after taxes, warranty and all

The 15" is a waste of money. You can get a Quad core with hyperthreading in a PC based laptop that comes with 6-8GB of RAM standard for about $1000 in a 15.6" screen chasis... if you would like to, I can do some searching for you and show you examples of what I'm talking about (kinda lazy at this moment, im drinking coffee )

IMO the 15" does offer more power, yes more power is desirable, but not for another $800.... you realize that the difference between the 13" and the 15" is:
2" bigger screen
CPU that (from intel) costs $100 more
320GB HDD to 500 - both 5400RPM (the PC at this price would have SSD or 7200RPM which would be WAY better for saving video work after rendering)

and its $700 more? I wouldn't take it simply because it doesn't make sense to. I would either do a 13" MBP for less than 1100, or get a 15" Windows based computer that will be significantly cheaper and have a top-of-the-line sandy bridge core i7 2600 CPU and 6-8GB of RAM for less money

I dont mind finding some examples if you need help with that
 
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just fyi this is what Im getting for my sister

its rather interesting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-204-_-Product

take the battery out and the chasis weighs about 1.5 pounds - literally nothing. Core i5 is a hyperthreaded dual core, none the less it still performs very well though, for video rendering it would be OK considering how light this thing is and the price..... and 9 hours of battery!

for a bit more I can find something with i7 2600,, Gimme a few

edit: if size is not an issue, this machine i found is pretty rediculous lol - beastly CPU, 12GB RAM, GTX 560M, Dual HDD in RAID...***!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834152266

if you're ok with dell: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834200291

kind of an off brand, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834198014 -edit2 do not get this, review on it was pretty bad on newegg as well as soem other sites, seems low quality
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Wow, thank you very much! +rep!

That MSI is freaking awesome! Haha.

One thing though, I feel like I wasn't clear on one thing.

I had a hard time debating about the 13" vs 15" MBP. I would get the higher end 13" with added RAM and the total price would be $1499. Now, the 15" would be $1800 like you said....the extra $400 is not worth a quad-core? (I don't know too much about prices obviously... )

And back to the MSI...That price is $1499...the same as the 13" MBP would be...hmmmm. This is a tough decision...
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$850, i7 Quad core / 8 thread
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+...20i7&cp=1&lp=1

Pretty basic, has great speakers, large HDD but its still 5400 RPM :< and its huge screen - 17".. that might be good or bad for you, lmk

ninja edit: just saw your reply..

The MBP setup... IMO it really comes down to one really big thing: If you plan on doing windows based gaming... There's no contest the MSI laptop will destroy any apple based laptop in performance

If games are not a priority, with the 15" MBP and $1800 you get the quad core with a 'midrange' Radeon GPU and its VERY heavy compared to most laptops due to the 10 hours of battery....HOWEVER there is not many laptops available that will give you even 7 hours of battery, let alone a high end quad core,midrange dedicated GPU, 15" screen with 10 hours of battery...

So for the $1800, if those features are desirable, then its really your only choice, simply because nobody else can do it... im retracting some of my previous thoughts simply because i realized this isn't MY laptop those features are not desirable to me, I have a tablet for on the go computing

So if you want the kick-ass performance, the MSI is the clear choice, but its a lil bulky and the battery is not nearly as good considering its got both a top end CPU and a high end GPU with freaking 12GB of RAM and TWO HDDs.....

If you want Apple's 10 hour battery with the top end CPU (quad core again), but midrange GPU, and sleek design, well that's a clear winner then.

the other choice is 13" MBP and just lower performance overall, but IMO if you're going to sttle for that, get the $800 toshiba for the same hardware and slap OSX on it or have fun with windows, that too has 9 hours battery with Core i5~


sooo, choices:
$800 toshiba core i5, 9 hour battery, ultra light ultra portable - you might want more RAM-add $100 from newegg? I'll check that i found 8GB kit for $80
$1500 MSI laptop with 12GB RAM, Dual HDD RAID, 1TB storage, GTX 560 GPU (LOLWUT) - rediculously fast
$1400 13" MBP upgraded ram, same performance as the $800 toshiba, but its sleeker and apple care! battery is more or less the same 10hr
$1800 MBP Quad core, midrange radeon 6400 series (i think.. i dont remember exactly) and 10 hours of battery, and apple support!

that was my last edit: lmk what u think
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just FYI

the 15" MBP comes with this
AMD Radeon HD 6490M graphics processor with 256MB of GDDR5 memory on 2.0GHz configuration

IMO a load of fail if you do any gaming, and its kind of weak for graphics performance. Just keep that in mind if you wanna game much on this machine

the MSI's GTX 560 would rival your desktop LOL
 
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