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Beautiful rig.

BTW - if you take care to mount the Velcro in the same way at every corner, you can pull off the GT's, slap on the P12's; then pull off the P12's . . .

Basically you can set up a standard mounting system for quickly changing fans.
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Beautiful rig.

BTW - if you take care to mount the Velcro in the same way at every corner, you can pull off the GT's, slap on the P12's; then pull off the P12's . . .

Basically you can set up a standard mounting system for quickly changing fans.
Thanks lol. I spent a long time figuring out how to hide the wires and setup the WC last week in that tiny mid tower.

And the velcro idea I initially had in mind thinking that is what you meant was a quick fan swap method + decoupling.

If you happen to be interested in more photos, you can check out my thread where I have a lot more photos of it.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...-advice-3.html
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Thanks lol. I spent a long time figuring out how to hide the wires and setup the WC last week in that tiny mid tower.

And the velcro idea I initially had in mind thinking that is what you meant was a quick fan swap method + decoupling.

If you happen to be interested in more photos, you can check out my thread where I have a lot more photos of it.

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...-advice-3.html
Nice looking build.
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Nice looking build.
Thanks, I really like it minus the resonating fans and I can hear the pump at various frequencies in my computer cabinet. It's quieter sitting on the floor I think. Might move it in open air if I can get the fans to quiet down and make room for it. My Z5500 sub takes up most of my underdesk space.

Hopefully after work today or tomorrow I will have some time to work on this fan issue.
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Just got my noctua's swapped in, even with screws... I was too lazy to stop and pick up velcro or double sided foamish thick tape. Immediate reaction to difference in sound. Just as quiet/inaudible at low fans. Then just a quiet woosh as they speed up. No fan motor/spinning resonance. Much milder tone on the ears and could almost get away with leaving them up louder as the noise pitch is so much less distracting.

Most likely going to be selling my 6 GT AP-14's, but don't have 35 rep yet. Anyone know if you can sell without the 35 rep in these forums? I have an eBay account with 50+ 100% positive feedback.

On to another issue. I have now noticed a new sound now that the AP-14's are gone. The pump... It is gel padded and zip tied to to the case with the gel pad between it and the case. How in the hell do I get it to shut up!? It must be a vibration issue because when I run it on "silent mode" which is 61ish HZ it is got a noticble low end buzz. As it speed up to 80Hz max, there is a lapse in sound from about 68-71ish Hz. Then you start to hear actual like rpm noise from the motor. Anything lower than 68Hz and I get a humming sound. Problem is, at 70Hz you can hear the buzz as you walk further from the desk.

I'm sure you all think I am some kind of sound nazi, and maybe I am, but these things just drive me insane lol.

Edit: I have tried putting the case on a bunch of microfiber cloths I had laying around to prop it off the wood cabinet, no change. It might just be a resonance from being entrapped in a wooden cabinet as it is literally sitting on 1-2" thick of cloths so the feet don't touch the cabinet. Sound proof the cabinet! lol. That is probably my next step. Also, the computer is WAY louder with the cabinet door closed than it is opened. This makes me believe my idea about the pump just resonating inside the cabinet rather than vibrating is the issue.
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Ok, I'm like about to explode over ridiculous fan noises. I added a couple more of my noctuas and a new fan controller. Now I have discovered at least one of the noctuas have a ticking sound that follows RPM. Double checked all cables and there is no cables touching any blade areas to make the ticking sound. It's faint, but it is one of those things that once you hear it, you can't not hear it.

Is there any near silent fan that moves air nicely over radiators when using a lot of them near each others?

I also bought a lamptron FC-6 controller. I really like the display on it and everything was fine and dandy until I realized it doesn't power up fans until the knobs are turned 75%. That leaves only about the last quarter or less for some of the fans to adjust from slowest to fastest and is really touchy. My old controller had full knob range and always spun up my fans. Is it starting at 0V to 12V? and my old one was 7V to 12V or something?
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Fan controllers can make a nice fan sound ugly. That's why I don't use them.

One nice thing about the Gentle Typhoons is that they drwa very little current. You can put twelve AP-15's on a circuit and draw one Amp. You can put twenty AP-14's on and draw one Amp (0.049A). So you could easily put your six AP-14's on a mb that allows Voltage control. Gigabyte boards do, and apparently some As.s boards do (mine doesn't). Your P12's should draw 0.09A each, so you could put them all together with Y-cables on the cpu header and let the mb do the controlling - if is does Voltage control . . .
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Fan controllers can make a nice fan sound ugly. That's why I don't use them.

One nice thing about the Gentle Typhoons is that they drwa very little current. You can put twelve AP-15's on a circuit and draw one Amp. You can put twenty AP-14's on and draw one Amp (0.049A). So you could easily put your six AP-14's on a mb that allows Voltage control. Gigabyte boards do, and apparently some As.s boards do (mine doesn't). Your P12's should draw 0.09A each, so you could put them all together with Y-cables on the cpu header and let the mb do the controlling - if is does Voltage control . . .
Lmao, so your saying I could just chain a bunch of Y cables together until I get enough for my fans? Then the CPU fan header would control it by temp? I know it has like "smart fan" or "q-fan" or whatever asus calls it where it adjusts the CPU fan speed by temp.

My only issue with that is I just bought a 50 dollar fan controller that looks awesome and would like to use it and its temp sensors. If only it would start at like 7V and not 0. My fans on don't like to spin up unless set pretty far up and different noctuas seem to start at different levels.

Now I read that I need 35 rep before selling stuff on here, but do you know if there is a way around that? I would like to sell off a lot of my old parts like my Vapor-X 5870 and various crap I took out of my PC during the WC addition.
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My AP15's running on my H50 rad are like that. One runs at around 1810RPM and the other at around 1760RPM.
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Fan controllers can make a nice fan sound ugly. That's why I don't use them.

One nice thing about the Gentle Typhoons is that they drwa very little current. You can put twelve AP-15's on a circuit and draw one Amp. You can put twenty AP-14's on and draw one Amp (0.049A). So you could easily put your six AP-14's on a mb that allows Voltage control. Gigabyte boards do, and apparently some As.s boards do (mine doesn't). Your P12's should draw 0.09A each, so you could put them all together with Y-cables on the cpu header and let the mb do the controlling - if is does Voltage control . . .
ehume, you still have to account for start-up voltage which is higher than operating voltage. The voltage rating on the sticker is the operating voltage.
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