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Originally Posted by coolhandluke41 View Post
hey boss..you all over with your post ,first of all where are you getting
"99% of the performance of the EK HF Supreme" and what exactly it means ?
OP wants nickel...
why " non-reference PCBs with the improved VRAM layouts" ,look at my sig,that's almost 6 months old vanilla..nothing is blowing
I mean exactly what it says. The XSPC Rasa is right up there with the best CPU block available which is the EK HF Supreme but instead of paying $90 for the EK block it is only $50. The Heatkiller is also right around $90 plus it needs a back plate which is extra money. In regards to your GPU I honestly don't care because it doesn't make a difference. Just because one Diablotek PSU doesn't blow up does it mean it's a good power supply?? No not at all. Obviously that is an exaggeration but it's there to make a point. it has been shown many times that the reference VRAM format has had many issues when trying to add more voltage. That is why there are new non-reference 570s with improved VRAM formats. And I didn't see the part about the nickel but I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make when you're going to be saving $30. It still has an Acetal or Chrome (whichever OP prefers) top and you can barely even see any copper when it's mounted.

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Now that I think about it, maybe I should just get these Koolance blocks;

https://www.koolance.com/water-cooli...roduct_id=2005

https://www.koolance.com/water-cooli...roduct_id=2030

Both available and I LOVE the look of both of them.

Thanks for the tip for flushing radiators, definitely gonna' keep that in mind.
That CPU block is also one of the top performing blocks available. They all preform within about 1C which is pretty much negligible. The top 5 blocks currently (in no particular order) are as follows:
Koolance 370 $84.99
EK HF Supreme $79.95
XSPC Rasa $49.95
Heatkiller 3.0 (With Backplate) $84.95 + $9.99
Kyros XT (Can't find for sale anywhere)
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here is nickel block ..performance, quality, workmanship, aesthetics
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=27445

don't want to get in to the whole VRM's thing right now ,all i'm going to say it was bad batch and one thread ...and you know what thread
    
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here is nickel block ..performance, quality, workmanship, aesthetics
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=27445

don't want to get in to the whole VRM's thing right now ,all i'm going to say it was bad batch and one thread ...and you know what thread
This thread? It hasn't been updated since May and at that point the count was up to 22 blown cards... As more and more knowledge is coming up about it people aren't adding so much voltage to the cards.
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yeah..right..lol
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Here is a bit of information for you OP when it comes to 570s and which ones have an updated VRM format. There are probably a few more that have come out since this was made.
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-Gainward 570 Phantom, Gainward 570 GS Goes Like Hell, Palit 570 Sonic Platinum all have 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory). Same amount with the GTX 580. All these cards have identical PCB since they belong to the same graphics card manufacturer group


- Asus GTX570 DirectCU II also has 8 phase VRMs (6 GPU and 2 memory)
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I'm hellbent on both GPU and CPU Koolance blocks and will probably be purchasing both, I found them on Amazon.com and will be purchasing them from there since I am an Amazon Prime customer.

My only worry now is will my GTX 570 be boned in regards to the blocks not fitting or something? I haven't read up on this issue at all so please if anyone could educate me on the matter it would surely provide some peace of mind.

Should I be worried?

Like I said my GPU block will be the Koolance block listed here -




EDIT: Thanks for the info VW_TDI_02 but I'm not sure what I should be looking for with that information, mind elaborate? Thanks!

ALSO before I forget, in regards to the pump I won't be getting a block for my motherboard (budget issues along with the fact that I cannot find a compatible block for my Extreme-Z motherboard) so I will only have the CPU block and GPU block. Would the 655 be the better choice for the scenario or still the other pump?
Edited by Necrodox - 6/23/11 at 10:51pm
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I'm hellbent on both GPU and CPU Koolance blocks and will probably be purchasing both, I found them on Amazon.com and will be purchasing them from there since I am an Amazon Prime customer.

My only worry now is will my GTX 570 be boned in regards to the blocks not fitting or something? I haven't read up on this issue at all so please if anyone could educate me on the matter it would surely provide some peace of mind.

Should I be worried?

Like I said my GPU block will be the Koolance block listed here - Amazon.com: VID-NX580 (GeForce GTX 580/570) [no nozzles]: Electronics



EDIT: Thanks for the info VW_TDI_02 but I'm not sure what I should be looking for with that information, mind elaborate? Thanks!

ALSO before I forget, in regards to the pump I won't be getting a block for my motherboard (budget issues along with the fact that I cannot find a compatible block for my Extreme-Z motherboard) so I will only have the CPU block and GPU block. Would the 655 be the better choice for the scenario or still the other pump?
Pump
Either of those pumps will honestly work. The MCP655 is about the same price as the MCP355. IMO just buy one of these here on OCN then buy an aftermarket top such as the XSPC one I linked earlier in the thread. That will save you about $50 on the pump alone and still have a solid pump.

GPU Block
The issue with the GPU blocks stems from the VRMs. The original reference design for the 570 had some issues where the VRMs were of poor quality and had to few of them so they were failing whenever extra voltage was added. Granted not every one is going to go bad but it is definitely an issue. As a result of this certain companies put out nonreference designs that had improved VRMs that were capable of handling extra voltage with ease. Since most GPU blocks out were made for the reference design it comes down to which 570 you are buying. SO before we can figure out which block will work I need to know which exact 570 you are buying. I would suggest you get one of the ones I quoted above.
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@ OP before you purchase the pump you might want to read this and "listen" to each pump:
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/03/...sting-round-1/
if you looking for reliable quite pump D5 (655 vario) is the way to go ,sure you can get MCP350 linked above but it's one of the loudest pumps out there and you could end up moding PCB (another 10$ ) or getting CTR-SPD10 12V Pump or Fan Speed Controller(35$)
D5 is great pump and good for 3 blocks/RADs

as for GPU block..you have to decide on GPU first ,i own vanilla 570 for over 6 months no problem and yes there was bad batch out there and the thread (blown out of proportion ) linked above shows 22 card with blown vrms in 6 month span out of how many sold ?,some of the card makers implemented higher phase count on none reference design ,so if you feel uncomfortable with reference card you might want to get 8 phase VRMs design (i think EK makes blocks for none ref) or you could get Evga vanilla (lifetime warranty and pain free RMA service just in case)
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MCP655 will be my choice with the variable speed, my only issue now is I don't know which tops are compatible. Are all MCP655 pumps the same as far as sizes go?

I want to get an XSPC top because I hear they are very good, I'm open for anything so if you guys have any recommendations feel free.

As far as the GTX 570 goes I will definitely be getting an EVGA variant, I'm choosing the super clocked version which is the none-reference version correct? I have no idea what company makes non-reference waterblocks for the GTX 570 so if anyone has a link or some sort of information I would appreciate it.

Sorry for all the trouble, thanks again guys.
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MCP655 will be my choice with the variable speed, my only issue now is I don't know which tops are compatible. Are all MCP655 pumps the same as far as sizes go?

I want to get an XSPC top because I hear they are very good, I'm open for anything so if you guys have any recommendations feel free.

As far as the GTX 570 goes I will definitely be getting an EVGA variant, I'm choosing the super clocked version which is the none-reference version correct? I have no idea what company makes non-reference waterblocks for the GTX 570 so if anyone has a link or some sort of information I would appreciate it.

Sorry for all the trouble, thanks again guys.
The EVGA one is a reference one and has the original VRM layout. I would recommend the Asus DCII, MSI TFIII, Gainward Phantom or Palit Sonic
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