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post #11 of 22
I'll go against the grain and give you this option, it uses the same cooler (arctic cooling) as the Sparkle Calibre series (which kicks butt) but is $489.00 only! Make sure to use Afterburner to control the fans properly though!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162073
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OP I would like to refer you to my thread: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/1027...gtx-580-a.html

I had the same decision to make and I think the thread will make yours easier

The Sparkle Calibre is a nice card with a nice cooler ...but keep in mind the following factors:

The cooler is said to be operating a bit louder then the rest of the previously mentioned cards.
Also it does not have 16 phases, 2x8pin, no individual voltage tunin gand other power delivery enhancing and voltage adjusting/tuning features and aspects the Lightning does h ave.

The Sparkle is nice but if you are looking for a good overclock and the maximum potential do reach that goal then I would say take the Lightning over the Sparkle.

If you don´t mind a little more noise and do not intend to overclock to the max there is nothing against the Sparkle

Just check out the thread it will solve this problem.
Edited by Kung Pow - 6/21/11 at 1:04am
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post #13 of 22
580 Lig... Oh, you get the point.
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ASUS GTX580 CUII!
No? Noone?
*walks away unhappily*
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post #15 of 22

I will narrow it down

The TOP Air Cooling solutions on the 580 currently available on the market are:

.)DCUII
.)TWFIII

The cards that use that coolers are:

.)MSI GTX 580 Lightning => TWFIII =>extreme dense copper heatsink design,high amount of copper heatpipes, individual cooling for VRM´s, RAM & Core.

.)ASUS GTX 580 DCUII =>DCUII=>triple slot cooling solution,also high dense copper heatsink but everything is cooled at once and that is the kicker.
If you have very high voltages going through all the parts will get hot individually and then the cooling of the DCUII will be significantly compromised because the heat is dissipated through one big clump of copper instead of being dissipated individually like with for example the Lightning.

.)ASUS GTX 580 Matrix =>DCUII=>identical heatsink as the DCUII , no modifications done whatsoever.




MSI GTX 580 Lightning +/-

+ Highly sophisticated and extreme power delivery capability and voltage tuning
(16phases, 2x8pin,individual voltage tuning for core,RAM, PWM )

+ As a result of that great overclocking potential and of course high voltage tolerance

+ Very efficient cooling due to extreme dense copper heatsink and my personal decisionmaker over the rest of 580´s ...smart individual cooling for the main heatpoints on the PCB and therefor more efficient cooling at higher clocks with higher voltages.

+ individual switches for manual voltage tuning

+ connectors which enable the user to read out the voltages for realtime voltage measurment

- higher price

- very long




ASUS GTX 580 DCUII

+ quieter cooling at lower clocks and voltages

- triple slot , thus very big, thus for most people no SLI

- unfortunetly no individual cooling for the important components

- normal phase amount and no individual voltage tweaking

sry no hating but I could not find many + points so I hope people can mention more + so I can edit


ASUS GTX 580 Matrix:

+ 16 phases , huge amount of votlage tweaking and adjustment tools

+ handy buttons indstead of tiny switches like on the Lightning for manual tweaking

+ nice looking LED´s that depict the votlage level by color

- no modifications done whatsoever on the DCII cooler , meaning still great cooling but not optimal for heavy voltages and clocks because of all in one dissipation.

- Due to DCII triple slot

- very very pricey compared to the DCII and Lightning

- reviews have shown the card to overclock pretty bad and also not even cool as properly as the normal DCII which is highly questionable?


These are the main factors of the cards but since I wanna offer more source for each and everyone to form their oppinions here some vids on the cards
(Unfortunetly the Matrix does not have one yet since it is only about to be released)

MSI GTX 580 Lightning :



ASUS GTX 580 DCII

As you can see what I said is showing off right here
The card got up to 95 degrees in Idle and 110 degrees at full load.
When the card is stressed a lot and running high clocks the big heatsink becomes redundant because all the heat from all components is tryed to be expelled by one big layer of copper and fins which is just not optimal in my oppinion.

The DCII is not really meant to be overclocked high ...it only has some voltage features so it can be competitive ....buy the DCII if you don´t wanna overclock high and still want to have quiet operation at low clocks with reasonably good temps
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post #16 of 22
The Asus needs 2 6+2 pin connectors and is more power hungry. It's also a triple slot design.
post #17 of 22
you are all wrong. It is obviously the evga hydro copper...

fine just get the lightning already.
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Originally Posted by Kung Pow View Post
I will narrow it down

The TOP Air Cooling solutions on the 580 currently available on the market are:

.)DCUII
.)TWFIII

The cards that use that coolers are:

.)MSI GTX 580 Lightning => TWFIII =>extreme dense copper heatsink design,high amount of copper heatpipes, individual cooling for VRM´s, RAM & Core.

.)ASUS GTX 580 DCUII =>DCUII=>triple slot cooling solution,also high dense copper heatsink but everything is cooled at once and that is the kicker.
If you have very high voltages going through all the parts will get hot individually and then the cooling of the DCUII will be significantly compromised because the heat is dissipated through one big clump of copper instead of being dissipated individually like with for example the Lightning.

.)ASUS GTX 580 Matrix =>DCUII=>identical heatsink as the DCUII , no modifications done whatsoever.




MSI GTX 580 Lightning +/-

+ Highly sophisticated and extreme power delivery capability and voltage tuning
(16phases, 2x8pin,individual voltage tuning for core,RAM, PWM )

+ As a result of that great overclocking potential and of course high voltage tolerance

+ Very efficient cooling due to extreme dense copper heatsink and my personal decisionmaker over the rest of 580´s ...smart individual cooling for the main heatpoints on the PCB and therefor more efficient cooling at higher clocks with higher voltages.

+ individual switches for manual voltage tuning

+ connectors which enable the user to read out the voltages for realtime voltage measurment

- higher price

- very long




ASUS GTX 580 DCUII

+ quieter cooling at lower clocks and voltages

- triple slot , thus very big, thus for most people no SLI

- unfortunetly no individual cooling for the important components

- normal phase amount and no individual voltage tweaking

sry no hating but I could not find many + points so I hope people can mention more + so I can edit


ASUS GTX 580 Matrix:

+ 16 phases , huge amount of votlage tweaking and adjustment tools

+ handy buttons indstead of tiny switches like on the Lightning for manual tweaking

+ nice looking LED´s that depict the votlage level by color

- no modifications done whatsoever on the DCII cooler , meaning still great cooling but not optimal for heavy voltages and clocks because of all in one dissipation.

- Due to DCII triple slot

- very very pricey compared to the DCII and Lightning

- reviews have shown the card to overclock pretty bad and also not even cool as properly as the normal DCII which is highly questionable?


These are the main factors of the cards but since I wanna offer more source for each and everyone to form their oppinions here some vids on the cards
(Unfortunetly the Matrix does not have one yet since it is only about to be released)

MSI GTX 580 Lightning :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foCZWEa0GSU


ASUS GTX 580 DCII

As you can see what I said is showing off right here
The card got up to 95 degrees in Idle and 110 degrees at full load.
When the card is stressed a lot and running high clocks the big heatsink becomes redundant because all the heat from all components is tryed to be expelled by one big layer of copper and fins which is just not optimal in my oppinion.

The DCII is not really meant to be overclocked high ...it only has some voltage features so it can be competitive ....buy the DCII if you don´t wanna overclock high and still want to have quiet operation at low clocks with reasonably good temps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZfOa3ghLg
All of the mentioned cards are great , it depends on what the OP wants

DCII if you don´t want to overclock very high and still have reasonably good temps with quiet cooling.

Lightning if you really wanna push the card and achieve high overclocking results.
Also it will cool better and be able to handle more stress due to the individual cooling.

Matrix is a total flop with a very high price in my oppinon.
Due to the reveiws it does not overclock all that well , and what you get for the price are some LED´s and switches ....in my oppinion an overpriced DCII with buttons 16 phases and LED´s


So I personally say Lightning due to all the facts and information we I gathered here.

But in the end it is your decision
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post #19 of 22
hello friend
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix is best 580GTX in the market has 19 phase design
MAXIMUM STABILITY,MAXIMUM OC,BEST BRAND
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix is best
its run cool compare to 580gtx LIGHTING
AND IT HAS ABILITY TO REACH 1GHZ
ASUS 580GTX ROG >>>>>> msi 580gtx lighting
and price about
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix = $530
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranveer View Post
hello friend
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix is best 580GTX in the market has 19 phase design
MAXIMUM STABILITY,MAXIMUM OC,BEST BRAND
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix is best
its run cool compare to 580gtx LIGHTING
AND IT HAS ABILITY TO REACH 1GHZ
ASUS 580GTX ROG >>>>>> msi 580gtx lighting
and price about
ASUS 580GTX ROG matrix = $530

Couple of things:

1.)You are confusing the Matrix with the Mars 590 ... the Matrix 580 only has 16 phases

2.)A cards ability of reaching 1GHZ is determined by 60%-70% by the chip therefore it is a silicon lottery not a potential

3.)And the cooler (DCII) is not suited for high voltages or clocks and high levels of stress as depicted in this video the DCII 580 gets up to 95 degrees in Idle and 110 degrees at full load.
And since there have not been any modifications done on the DCII of the Matrix you can expect an even worse cooling result since it has 16 phases and allows higher voltage release.

At 04:39 you can see it.

The problem with the DCII is that at high levels of stress the cooling solution of just a fat heatsink with a large dissipating area for all the components isn´t very smart since all heat of all parts is added up ...and with high clocks and high voltages this just becomes an oven.

The Lightning has a smarter solution for this problem ....it has individual cooling for all the heat monopls core , RAM , etc and their heat can be dissipated individually and seperately

4.)And I personally think for what you get the price on that card is just ridiculous.
You get an overpriced DCII with no mods , some LED´s , buttons and 16 phases + 2x8 pin


No need to be fanboying man ...the Matrix is an awesome card no question about it but if you are targeting at max oc and potential cooling and can compensate a little noise at higher fan rounds then the Lightning is the pick

It depends on what you want.
Edited by Kung Pow - 6/21/11 at 2:55am
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