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One has Copper (II) sulfate pentahydrate (CuSO4·5H2O) 4.1% which is out of stock...
the other has Benzalkonium chloride 1.65%

My setup is an aluminum rad, and a copper block, I have the feser already and am planning to run with distilled water, corrosion is a concern but with the feser is it still a concern, as the one with copper suggests? Does it matter at all...
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If you running strictly distilled water, use PHN. Also, the aluminum rad might be a problem for your loop when it comes to corrosion.

You dont need feser if your going with distilled and PHN route.
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I'm wondering if you need either, I have some memory of reading feser comes premixed with biocides. ~ Must have been a different feser product I was thinking of

Either way I would advise a killcoil over biocide.



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Originally Posted by DigitalMonkey View Post
If you running strictly distilled water, use PHN. Also, the aluminum rad might be a problem for your loop when it comes to corrosion.

You dont need feser if your going with distilled and PHN route.
He does is the feser he has is the corrosion blocker
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i found a cheaper method than pt nuke thats just as effective and costs way less for a bigger bottle

5% chlorine pool algaecide, 2 drops does the loop. i rotate water once a year, no problems what so ever for 2 yrs now

its about $6 for 8L of the stuff, will last forever
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I am confused by "I have the feser already and am planning to run with distilled water, corrosion is a concern but with the feser is it still a concern"

So what feser are you using? just feser pure distilled water? I hope not with aluminum.

I would not use copper sulfate with aluminum rad, acidity alone, and you need to use corrosion inhibitors, corrosion of aluminum alone in distilled water is high, see chart below (these are higher temps, at our temps about 1/5 loss), but copper and brass erode/corrode very slowly in distilled water, aluminum 20-50x faster. Then add copper ions from waterblock and no corrosion inhibitors and you may in time end up with leaky/corroded rad.

Edited by opt33 - 6/20/11 at 5:05pm
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post #6 of 8
I would not mix the aluminuim rad in your loop. That will casue things to corrode.
PT_nuke-PHN is fine.
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The feser is for anti corrosion. I am using Feser Base corrosion blocker. It contains ethylene glycol.
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Copper Sulphate reacts with Aluminum to make Aluminum Sulphate. This can potentially burn a hole through your rad and eliminates the copper sulphate from the system. The same thing goes with zinc, which is found in brass which is sometimes found in WC loops. If there is ANY aluminum or zinc, DON'T USE PT NUKE. The copper sulphate version at least.
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