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Originally Posted by TheRockMonsi View Post
Guys, we can talk about how corporations and such are gaming our current systems of today, but in the end talk is talk, and that will do nothing for us. What needs to happen is everyone to try and figure out how we can fight this. Too bad I don't know how to fight something like this. Ideas are welcome though.
You can't fight it. The people who are smart and can afford a college education go work for these corporations.

The rest.....the rest are too dumb to figure anything out, nothing personal tho.
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post #22 of 50
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Originally Posted by AzO View Post
Everything is being consolidated, from political power to economic power. Shouldn't be a surprise. It's just that some people are too busy with their own lives to give a **** about any of this.

Just remember one thing, you have no choice as people when it comes to important things, because the government and big corporations believes you are too dumb and stupid to understand any of it in the first place.
important things...

life.. check.

competance.... check

intelligence, big check

Family, check.

I dont see how any corporation or government is a hindrance on any of these. I am also sure there are many other important things in our lives, and i dont see how anyone could really upset these. It would take some really shady .gov or .com to slow me down when it comes to being human.

Everyone has a choice on everything. The hard part is getting everyone to stand up for their own free will, and be heard as more than "cha-ching".
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They're cheating their consumers too. Text messages don't cost them a penny to send.. they ride along control packets that are sent to the phone regardless
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we need a law abiding citizen to these wankers.
Bah "wankers" is not an American term.
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post #25 of 50
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Everyone is always gaming every system.

You are an idiot if you aren't.
i think most of us here do. PC for me, but if you use console that's fair

not surprised though
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post #26 of 50
The closing paragraph sums it up quite well:
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In all likelihood the AT&T/T-Mobile merger will go forward – the federal government works for the trusts. Sen. Leahy and his Vermont constituency, along with the rest of the country, will be left holding the bag, witnesses to greater industry consolidation, inferior services and higher prices. And AT&T executives will laugh all the way to the bank
Why does the government break up monopolies only to let them reform again?
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post #27 of 50
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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek View Post
Everyone is always gaming every system.

You are an idiot if you aren't.
Not if you are doing something immoral or unethical. It is one thing to figure out a way to get more than the other guy. It is totally different thing to get more than other guy by taking it out his pocket.

As much as some people seem to think otherwise ethics are important. So is character. Its sad when you see people who value their integrity so lowly that they'll compromise it for fistful of dollars.
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post #28 of 50
Note: I haven't read the article - I just assumed the title was all I needed to go by.

Someone asked how we can solve this problem - in all honesty, there is no direct resolution, especially when dealing with a problem headed by massive corporations that are aided by (I'm assuming this point as well) employees with at least mediocre levels of intelligence, ingenuity and experience.

However...

Now, I'm still a complete novice when it comes to American politics - in fact, the only background I can say I have is what my friends tell me (which I digest with heaps of salt) and the course I'm taking (diligently) now.

But...

The little I know suggests that the problem with the representative democracy that America has "upheld" for so long (the longest, even) is that the current generations are simply too jaded to care. They believe (perhaps, or perhaps not, rightly so) that any action they undertake for change will end for naught because of forces they believe are omnipotent. Thus, their logic suggests that they shouldn't waste their efforts in trying.

I'm sorry, "they" should be replaced with the pronoun "we".

Now, my course tells me that power, in theory, rests in the population. The president is, despite what a staggeringly vast majority of people think, nearly powerless without a high approval rating (typically the first few months of office). Congress, our "instant line of access to government", can only act given enough incentive; that is, with enough support. They're labelled as the slowest, most tedious branch but, in all honesty, they have to go through a million things to pass anything; it ain't easy, and it was never meant to be quick. The Supreme Court can only act when given a trial to work with - that is, there must first be a law, and then a victim, and then an accusation.

The power - it's somewhere on the webz; it could be that keyboard you're typing on, those digits you're manipulating, the brain you're using to communicate.
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post #29 of 50
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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek View Post
Dishonesty implies breaking the rules. Gaming the system is USING the rules as they are. By not gaming the rules, you are inherently putting yourself at a disadvantage with the illusion of some false morality.
I would say doing something that technically conforms with the letter of the law, but very obviously not the spirit of it is dishonest.
    
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Protest this merger by lending your voice to the fight:

http://attmobile.savetheinternet.com/

Be sure to write your own message, don't just use the preformatted one. You comments go right to the FCC!
Edited by [\/]Paris - 6/20/11 at 11:40pm
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