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It's EQ1's era, not WoW's, gd it. Also, I'm sure GW2 will suck as much as the first one that was supposed to be revolutionary.
Really? Why is that? I know answering the question requires you knowing what you're talking about~ but I'd like to see you give it the good old college try at least.
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It also helps if you have a high threshold for doing nothing but staring at stations and idling around gates.
Nah, it's WAY more fun to ninja.

Warp into mission
Steal loot
Get shot at
Blow up missionrunner
???
Profit!
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great post +rep for the find, I hope those two games can bring about a change to the genre I most enjoyed playing,except for the stagnation currently present in it
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Nah, it's WAY more fun to ninja.

Warp into mission
Steal loot
Get shot at
Blow up missionrunner
???
Profit!
I had a lot of fun in Eve in short bursts~ I really did. It was a great MMO to play while deployed and when I was in Europe. When I didn't have a lot of time to sit and play. When I did though~ I found I wasn't really rewarded for actually playing.

It would take months for me to be where I wanted to be~ and I spent a lot of time idling. A majority of the game was spent talking on forums (sometimes talking, usually arguing) and testing new fits so when I did get attacked by those twin Vagabond pilots, I could pop at least one of them or survive long enough to get help. The game had its moments, but it's all too easy to forget that the majority of the time~ it doesn't.

I challenge any Eve player to deny that 90% of their time ingame is spent in some kind of position, waiting to have fun... when it does happen though, boy is it fun~ but it just takes too long.

It's like fishing, in fact it's EXACTLY like fishing~ in that it's mostly idling, hoping~ having fun with buddies and being excited about the catch. Some people get fishing, some don't~ but it's still a pastime enjoyed by millions. Eve is that kind of game. :3
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I had a lot of fun in Eve in short bursts~ I really did. It was a great MMO to play while deployed and when I was in Europe. When I didn't have a lot of time to sit and play. When I did though~ I found I wasn't really rewarded for actually playing.

It would take months for me to be where I wanted to be~ and I spent a lot of time idling. A majority of the game was spent talking on forums (sometimes talking, usually arguing) and testing new fits so when I did get attacked by those twin Vagabond pilots, I could pop at least one of them or survive long enough to get help. The game had its moments, but it's all too easy to forget that the majority of the time~ it doesn't.

I challenge any Eve player to deny that 90% of their time ingame is spent in some kind of position, waiting to have fun... when it does happen though, boy is it fun~ but it just takes too long.

It's like fishing, in fact it's EXACTLY like fishing~ in that it's mostly idling, hoping~ having fun with buddies and being excited about the catch. Some people get fishing, some don't~ but it's still a pastime enjoyed by millions. Eve is that kind of game. :3
Thats actually how we describe ninja salvaging. We're always doing something [stealing mission loot], but generally nothing bites [shoots at us]. But when they do, it's EPIC.
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Well, Funcom has been around in MMO market far longer than Blizzard. I find Age of Conan underappreciated. Same goes for Eve Online.
Age of Conan dares touch what very few games do not. Nudity and raw uncensored violence with lots and lots of blood. I frankly don't care for 15 year olds, I want my games bloody as hell and female pixels with as little clothing as possible. The atmosphere and music is just... perfect.
I'm pretty sure both Guild Wars 2 and The Secret World will take a large chunk of WoW playerbase... if they come out before Diablo 3.
I have a feeling that Diablo 3 IS the next Blizzards' "MMO".
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Age of Conan is a "could have been".

1. Could have been a great game if it was not rushed to the market before it was ready and plagued with bugs.
2. Been so imba that PvP was no fun at all
3. First game director had listened to community more and gotten out some content fast enough

PLayed for 3 years of and on.

DBiggest threat to WoW will be ToR. In order to take on Blizzard u not only need to be innovative u need a huge marketing machine and a name that the average person know. Star Wars is one of the biggest names out there and we all know how willing EA is with spending money on marketing.

GW2 and Secret World do not seem to me titles that will be WoW destroyers. And i like the fact that they do not try to be. GW2 will be a great game that has a moderate-to-semi large dedicated player base. I do not know why every new MMO attempts to copy WoW.

I personally hate WoW. IMHO it has single-handedly dumbed down in the MMORPG industry in order to make it accessible to everyone. I tried playing and it just bored me to tears. Yes I am not like most people who just complain about the graphics. I have found games like Rift, AoC, Warhammer, FFXIV to all be the same.
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I personally hate WoW. IMHO it has single-handedly dumbed down in the MMORPG industry in order to make it accessible to everyone. I tried playing and it just bored me to tears. Yes I am not like most people who just complain about the graphics. I have found games like Rift, AoC, Warhammer, FFXIV to all be the same.
Lately, perhaps. Obviously you didn't play WoW back at launch - it was the most convoluted piece of crap you've ever seen. Needless farming, flights across continents to complete one quest, poor level design. The list goes on and on.

WoW has a very sizable amount of hardcore content that casuals will never see, but I do agree that it is much easier to play at a casual level since there is content that caters to that crowd.
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Lately, perhaps. Obviously you didn't play WoW back at launch - it was the most convoluted piece of crap you've ever seen. Needless farming, flights across continents to complete one quest, poor level design. The list goes on and on.
Vanilla was grindy, but COMPARED to games of it's era (Lineage, EverQuest and even Runescape) it's "grind" was absolutely peanuts, which is what attracted so many players. You could get to lvl 60 relatively quickly, sure the bg/honor grind took long but it was still nothing compared to proper grindfest MMO's.

People rage on and on about how "easy" or "dumbed down" the game has become, and yet 99% of those players have never even seen a heroic raid or anything past 2k rating in Arena. Catering to casuals is the best thing that could've happened because I'm SICK of the mmorpg genre being defined as super-time-consuming-repetetive games where you need to spend 500 hours before you see anything decent.
I play WoW as a complete casual, logging on maybe 1 hour a day to do some arena/dueling/a dungeon. I wish I could join a nice raiding guild and get some progression done (had an absolute blast in Ulduar last year with my guild, god we had so much fun), but now I simply don't have that kind of time since my work shifts are so irregular

People can cry on and on about how WoW has taken over the MMO genre, but if you were in Blizzard's shoes would you have done anything else?
Edited by Tippy - 6/23/11 at 4:53am
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Vanilla was grindy, but COMPARED to games of it's era (Lineage, EverQuest and even Runescape) it's "grind" was absolutely peanuts, which is what attracted so many players. You could get to lvl 60 relatively quickly, sure the bg/honor grind took long but it was still nothing compared to proper grindfest MMO's.

People rage on and on about how "easy" or "dumbed down" the game has become, and yet 99% of those players have never even seen a heroic raid or anything past 2k rating in Arena. Catering to casuals is the best thing that could've happened because I'm SICK of the mmorpg genre being defined as super-time-consuming-repetetive games where you need to spend 500 hours before you see anything decent.
I play WoW as a complete casual, logging on maybe 1 hour a day to do some arena/dueling/a dungeon. I wish I could join a nice raiding guild and get some progression done (had an absolute blast in Ulduar last year with my guild, god we had so much fun), but now I simply don't have that kind of time since my work shifts are so irregular

People can cry on and on about how WoW has taken over the MMO genre, but if you were in Blizzard's shoes would you have done anything else?
Raiding can be a mixed experience.

My experience was in BC, I got into a guild that was running the Sunwell right after it came out. They were a pretty good guild, but didn't enjoy the raid mentality [IE do what the raid leader says].
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