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Originally Posted by Relevant Wing View Post
Guess my Q6600 will have to last a few more months
Oh poor us... we have to settle for 80fps in BF3 instead of 95 with an Ivy Bridge chip. Lol.
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post #32 of 160
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Originally Posted by cmeeks View Post
Smaller and 3D transistors
Jesus, it took until the 3rd page for this to be stated?

Well done cmeeks.
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This is what happens when there is no real competition. I wish AMD would step up their game already.

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Originally Posted by SectorNine50 View Post
I don't think they are predicting any huge performance gains with Ivy, are they? The architecture is basically the same I thought, just smaller.
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Originally Posted by OverTheBelow View Post
Apart from the fact that it's 22nm, nothing much different.


It's not just a die shrink, it's switching to 3D transistors as well. Decent performance gains.
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post #34 of 160
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
It's not just a die shrink, it's switching to 3D transistors as well. Decent performance gains.
Everything I've read about 3D transistors has been theoretical...

Plus, like I said before, based on what I read I don't know that you are really even getting the benefits of 3D transistors at 22nm yet. I expect the next downsize to be where the 3D transistors shine.
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post #35 of 160
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Everything I've read about 3D transistors has been theoretical...

Plus, like I said before, based on what I read I don't know that you are really even getting the benefits of 3D transistors at 22nm yet. I expect the next downsize to be where the 3D transistors shine.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2384909,00.asp
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Well, I have a feeling my 970 will hold me until then. Honestly I wouldn't trade it for a 2600K+Cash.
 
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Originally Posted by r34p3rex View Post
*AMD releases Bulldozer in August*

Intel: TROLOLOLOL! Here's Ivy Bridge!!!

AMD: *sad face*
I thought I saw some kind of roadmap which showed BD at EOL by Q2 2012, being replaced by BD-E. Could have been real, could have been fake, don't really know or care -- just mentioning that.
post #38 of 160
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Originally Posted by Iceman23 View Post
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant everything I read about 3D transistor's potential has been theoretical.

But yes, that's interesting. This article states that they would not be able to do a 22nm fab with normal transistors, but aren't there other 22nm fab chips out right now (not necessarily x86) that aren't using 3D transistors?

From what I understand, the goal with Ivy Bridge was power efficiency. Since the Tri-Gate is wrapped around the silicon, they are able to stop electron flow more effectively.

Does that mean it's going to be able to handle higher voltages? Or simply just be efficiency?
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I don't know how much improvement they have made with Ivy, but a die shrink does not have anything to do with the architecture.

Die shrinks happen all the time without changing the architecture.
Yeah just look at nvidia: identical card + die shrink + rename + $50= new generation...
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I am glad that this is happening because I am just about to get an SB system together to get some benching done with it and would hate to be replacing it so quickly... unless BD blows it out of the water, of course.
    
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