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http://www.essortment.com/brand-loya...ior-35996.html
http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...d-loyalty.html

Some good definitions for all of us to brush up on when it comes to choosing a brand.
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post #72 of 160
Not a delay. It has been roadmapped to Q2 2012 for awhile now and how many times are people going to make useless re-posts like this?
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Go ahead and keep waiting for BD. Honestly, I really wanted AMD to come out and smack Intel around with BD. But so far it appears they have choked.
I'm not waiting for BD, IB, SB, VD.... anything. Phenom II might be a dud for the benchmark crowd, but for my usage, it's plenty. I'm interested in upcoming architectures, but I'm not going to jump to conclusions or put money aside for anything at the moment. If and when my needs dictate, I'll upgrade, but only after assessing the options available at that time.
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Apart from the fact that it's 22nm, nothing much different.


And the 3D gate transistor technology.

They're predicting either ~37% power saving at the same performance on the low end (Atom, i3, ULV), or 25% more performance for the same power usage at the top end (i7, K series, Extreme series..)
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Without AMD, Intel would be charging us up the ass for a 5GHz Pentium 6 about now.
So yeah this whole "I hope the other guy loses" mentality people seem to have is crap.
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Slightly off topic:I believe that a mature, proven process (like AMD's implementation of 45nm, c3 stepping) is almost as good as gambling on a new process. The 3D stuff is great news but it will have to be tested- I believe that this means it will not be of the performance of an improved stepping. Nethertheless it should bring advantages, but there is intel's locking system to take into account.

However, I do seem some sort of logic to this "delay" (if it is any delay at all) on intel's part. The last thing you want to do, with a rival cpu company about to launch a new processor is to screw your motherboard vendors over. Economically, it is a gamble; one of my favourite sayings is "The rain falls when the rain is on the ground"! And Bulldozer can be a pleasant suprise and the gamble may not pay off.

Also, Ivy will be "competing" with not only the first generation bulldozer, but the second generation bulldozer.

An architechtual change is nothing to be sneezed at for a company of AMD's size, yet it is almost taken for granted, almost expected, on a yearly basis. Both companies are at it hammer and tongs, always on the gas trying to one up eacher which equals a big win for consumers.
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i sort of hope these chips dont oblitorate Bulldozer as im goin to do a build for AMD when they are released, but if Ivy is going to beat it i may have to change to Intel.....see what it is like
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. I really wanted to build my next PC this year.
post #79 of 160
Sounds like a business decision to me. SB is doing well and...

Ivy Bridge will cannibalize X79 sales. Both are 22nm, people will buy the cheaper platform.
Allow X79 to be the only 22nm Intel platform for a while.

And Profit.
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Well this makes me feel better about my 1155
    
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