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I wouldn't count on a waterblock being made for any of these custom PCBs, they are a limited market in comparison to the reference design. I don't think the GPU only block and then a huge amount of copper for the VRMs would be a bad idea though.
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Well crud, that is flat out stupid beyond belief. The only cards that can really be overclocked don't have water blocks made for them.

Looks like I will probably get a Palit instead. Why are they so special to get water blocks made for them?
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Ah good you were able to find it, that's the block I was talking about and couldn't find. I'm not positive but I beleive that Palit was so special because for a long while they were the only ones that had a GF110 card with double the VRAM so all the super high end people that wanted the best of the best all had to buy Palit, therfore creating a large market of people who would be interest in waterblocks for them. The fact that that block fits both the 580 and 570 by gainward/palit also increases the avilable market.

The palit with that block should be a great combo, the weakest link in the Palit card IMO is their air cooler, their PCB and VRMs are solid so with a waterblock it will be excellent.
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post #24 of 35
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Well crud, that is flat out stupid beyond belief. The only cards that can really be overclocked don't have water blocks made for them.
maybe I got lucky, but my reference 570 clocked like a champ. IMO, too many people talk down on the reference card just because of a few bad ones.
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post #25 of 35
I'm not going to disagree with you but my position on the matter is that currently there just isn't a good reason not to get a card with the stronger VRM design when buying new. For aircooling the work spectacularly and are usually no more than $30 than the reference design, and watercooling is the most difficult aspect of them but there's nothing wrong with the Palit and that EK block that I'm aware of. So if the cards with stronger VRM design can fit your needs then it just kinda makes sense to go that route IMO, that's why I don't recommend anything but these non-reference cards, not because I think all the reference ones are ticking time bombs.
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post #26 of 35
That's a valid point. I just see to many people who want to use a full cover block and think they cannot buy a reference model because they think it's going to blow. I personally would buy a DCII or TFIII if I were buying a 570 now. I think I'd buy a 6970 lightning over either of them, but that's a different story. I don't care too much about the full cover thing anymore. A lot of the time these custom pcb cards, even the reference model, has a big heatsink that covers the vrm and ram which is separate from the gpu's heatsink. I used to run the mcw60 on my 570 along with the stock memory/vrm plate. I pumped the volts, benched it, abused it, and it never gave me any issues.
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post #27 of 35
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That's a valid point. I just see to many people who want to use a full cover block and think they cannot buy a reference model because they think it's going to blow. I personally would buy a DCII or TFIII if I were buying a 570 now. I think I'd buy a 6970 lightning over either of them, but that's a different story. I don't care too much about the full cover thing anymore. A lot of the time these custom pcb cards, even the reference model, has a big heatsink that covers the vrm and ram which is separate from the gpu's heatsink. I used to run the mcw60 on my 570 along with the stock memory/vrm plate. I pumped the volts, benched it, abused it, and it never gave me any issues.
Yea I agree with that too, I don't know very much at all about watercooling so I'm sure to expose my ignorance here but I agree about just a GPU only block being fine. I figure with a GPU only block and a huge stupid amount of copper covering the VRMs that you are nearly as good as if not as good as a full cover block. I figure a lot of the desire for nothing less than full cover is for aesthetics, cause "really dude? how hot does your VRAM get?" Especially with something like the 580 Lightning, granted the reference 580 doesn't have any problems but a Lightning under water with a huge chunk of copper on the VRMs has got to be better a force to be reckoned with and probably better than a reference with fullcover, ut like I said I don't know too much about watercooling.
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post #28 of 35
Aesthetics is pretty much the only reason. Most cases that air watercooled still have enough airflow to cool the other parts of the card or one can direct a fan at it if necessary. A lot of this hobby is aesthetics and that is perfectly fine. I've used full cover blocks before. Since I currently switch cards often, a universal block comes in handy. It's also cheaper and can be used on various models.
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post #29 of 35
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The main thing is the VRMs...the memory would likely be "ok" even without a heat sink. It will just be a little warm. Though I am rather disgusted to see that in the reference stock cooler the VRMs have no contact with the heatsink. The fan just blows over them. No wonder they burn up.

But there is also the noise reduction. By using a universal GPU block and heat sinking the VRMs that will add another fan I will have to run. My system is probably as close to silent as a system can get and still be an ethusiast rig and all my temps are great. I have no choice...once you ditch the case you have to tie down or it will fly away from all the fans you just can't go back.
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post #30 of 35
I think you may be underestimating how good a giant chunk of copper could do for the VRMs, but either way we've found you a good option with a full cover block that you wanted.
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