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I took measurements inside my case and the MSI GTX460 would be a very tight fit especially since it requires 2 6-pin cables which would be hard to fit as it gets too close to my HDs.
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I personally have the MSI PE/OC Edition 6850 And it performs great.

Runs at 950/1125 , On stock voltage , No problem , Havnt pushed it for more. Also card MAX'S out at around 57Degree's ( tho its in an Antec 1200 ). idels around 37Degree's ( MSI makes tit Gfx cards )

Its a great card you will be very happy with it , and performance is great in Xfire if you ever chose to go down that road

Note though , if you plan on playing BF bad company , Do not use the newest afterburner softwear ( cant unlock volts ) As it cause's crash's in game. Dont know if 11.6 Fixed this as im on 11.5
I plan on playing BF 3 for sure, but not BF bad company. Actually I am doing this upgrade with BF 3 in mind.

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Since it seems that the 460's overclock much better than the 6850's i would go with a 460.but if you can stretch the budget a little you can get a 470 for 149 after rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-616-_-Product
The 6850 seems a solid performer but since the MSI R6850 is $150, I am leaning more towards the ZOTAC GTX 460 1GB now since it's $120 and will overclock well.

Both cards seem on par even with overclocking, so with the ZOTAC GTX 460 1GB being $30 cheaper, it's looking like a better option unless it's not that much of an upgrade above an overclocked 5770 (sig).
Edited by xsever - 6/22/11 at 10:36am
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I took measurements inside my case and the MSI GTX460 would be a very tight fit especially since it requires 2 6-pin cables which would be hard to fit as it gets too close to my HDs.
Then the 6850 would not fit it's longer than the 460
    
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Then the 6850 would not fit it's longer than the 460
The R6850 by MSI is 8.54" x 4.72" x 1.5"

The GTX 460 HAWK by MSI is 9.37 x 4.3 x 1.46
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the Refrence 460 is shorter than the Refrence 6850 , i now that.
    
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Most 6850s i've seen have overclocked to around 950/1100 on stock voltage, whereas most 460s stretch to 850/??? I guess. That would mean 23% core clock improvement for the 6850, 26% for the 460. And the 460 benefits a little bit more from the overclock. Although, the newest drivers might give the 6850 a little boost. AFAIK, the 460s haven't received nearly any performance boosts for a while.

I'd say they're equal. MSI Cyclone HD6850 has amazing stock cooling, better than most 460s.
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I'd say they're equal. MSI Cyclone HD6850 has amazing stock cooling, better than most 460s.
This and my familiarity with the ATI brand are what's keeping me on the ATI side.

However, the ZOTAC seems like a good deal.

Given that I have 3 dedicated fans in my case for the GPU (1x bottom, 2x side), I am not too worried about temps.
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Most 6850s i've seen have overclocked to around 950/1100 on stock voltage, whereas most 460s stretch to 850/??? I guess. That would mean 23% core clock improvement for the 6850, 26% for the 460. And the 460 benefits a little bit more from the overclock. Although, the newest drivers might give the 6850 a little boost. AFAIK, the 460s haven't received nearly any performance boosts for a while.

I'd say they're equal. MSI Cyclone HD6850 has amazing stock cooling, better than most 460s.
You have to look at the stock clocks, the actual stock clock for a 460 is around 600 but the stock clock for 6850's are at 775. meaning that assuming that your general clocks are right the 460 normally gets a 40% increase while the 6850 gets a 22% increase.
460 overclocks better
    
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You have to look at the stock clocks, the actual stock clock for a 460 is around 600 but the stock clock for 6850's are at 775. meaning that assuming that your general clocks are right the 460 normally gets a 40% increase while the 6850 gets a 22% increase.
460 overclocks better
Nope, 460's stock core is 675. 850/675 ~ 26%.
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I say wait and save until you can afford a 560 or 6950. No sense in buying old or bottom of the bin technology now. Your 5770 will tide you over until you can afford something better. Besides BF3 won't be out for a while yet.
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