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Will test this as soon as my current WU is done. Any problem using 10.04 instead, somehow I can't get 10.10 to work on my gear?
TBH I am not sure.. I haven't used 10.04 myself, guide may work, may not.. I can have a look at it when I have some time. My concern would be what about 10.10 isn't working for you?
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With the programs I've used to burn the ISOs to a USB-stick I can't boot with it after that, haven't tried Imgburn as you suggest but several other programs and all of which work with .04, tried downloading .10 several times also.

Well, I'll give 10.04 a shot first.
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With the programs I've used to burn the ISOs to a USB-stick I can't boot with it after that, haven't tried Imgburn as you suggest but several other programs and all of which work with .04, tried downloading .10 several times also.

Well, I'll give 10.04 a shot first.
I'm not sure if ImgBurn will do it for USB's... I just burnt a DVD because I like having it ready at a moments notice.. maybe try that if you have a blank one around.
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You do realize there is a shortage of the 6903's and by running them on machines with less than 12 cores especially when there is a shortage, you are slowing the project down and you really should not be running them 0n 2600K / 2500K Phenom II X6 with anything less than 12 cores as Stanford recommended. By running them on anything less you are definitely looking at the points not the project.
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You do realize there is a shortage of the 6903's and by running them on machines with less than 12 cores especially when there is a shortage, you are slowing the project down and you really should not be running them 0n 2600K / 2500K Phenom II X6 with anything less than 12 cores as Stanford recommended. By running them on anything less you are definitely looking at the points not the project.
Yes, I know there is a shortage, and yes I understand the implications of users doing things like this in the interest of points.

Just like running regular bigadv on x6's and 2500k's, people are going to do it anyways. Especially when a forum such as this has competitions in which we are all fighting for an edge in our point production.

I completely understand your point on this.. Part of me agrees with you for sure. Like I said, unless Pande group comes up with a failsafe way of ensuring these only go to those with the desired hardware, people are going to do it anyways. Might as well teach them the most efficient way of doing it so the impact on the science is reduced as much as practically possible.
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By running them on anything less you are definitely looking at the points not the project.
If this was all about the project and had nothing to do with points, we'd all be folding for anonymous.
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Ill give a try as soon i have finish my current unit
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Also, this guide would work for folders with Hexacores that want to move from Windows to Linux (just ignoring the core spoofing section), thereby speeding up the folding and letting this correctly fold 6903s.
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Also, this guide would work for folders with Hexacores that want to move from Windows to Linux (just ignoring the core spoofing section), thereby speeding up the folding and letting this correctly fold 6903s.
Good point there sstnt...

Ok, I'm working on pointers to add to the guide for x6's and 2500k's doing bigadv as well and make this more of a general guide rather than specific to 2600k's and big-bigadv's. I will also indicate what steps a Hexacore needs to do, and what parts to ignore. Give me a bit of time to work all that out...

I still need to do a bit of testing to confirm, but I believe the current guide for for 2600k's could use a slight tweak as well.

If anyone uses this, I would like them to try editing the terminal profile for fah6smp to give the client the flag -smp 8 instead of just -smp. Reasoning here, is that the client uses the total # of cores detected to determine what WU's you can pull, the number of threads we specify to use with the -smp flag does not affect what WU you get. Now, when we run just -smp, it will launch 12 threads. Now an 8 threaded chip running with 12 threads is going to be less efficient as one running just 8 threads overall.

Currently I only have a P6900 running, and after switching to -smp 8 the TPF improved. I didn't have a chance to try this out while running the P6903, but I suspect it should improve the performance there as well. I also need to make sure for certain (going off others feedback on this ATM) that the client will still grab a P6903 with -smp 8 set, as long as the client detects the minimum 12 cores.

If anyone is able to do some testing here for me that would be greatly appreciated. (note, carefull switching the flag in the middle of a WU, has worked fine for me a few times, but has also caused the WU to fail once)

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Yes, I know there is a shortage, and yes I understand the implications of users doing things like this in the interest of points.

Just like running regular bigadv on x6's and 2500k's, people are going to do it anyways. Especially when a forum such as this has competitions in which we are all fighting for an edge in our point production.

I completely understand your point on this.. Part of me agrees with you for sure. Like I said, unless Pande group comes up with a failsafe way of ensuring these only go to those with the desired hardware, people are going to do it anyways. Might as well teach them the most efficient way of doing it so the impact on the science is reduced as much as practically possible.
Well it looks like you may get your wish. We shall see. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.ph...=18797&start=0


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by VijayPande » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:24 pm

An update on what's been going on internally at Stanford: somewhat paralleling this thread, we've been discussing this internally, taking in comments made here and in other threads. We have a meeting scheduled for Monday and I have some ideas to propose. If the FAH/Pande group like the proposal, we'll run it by a sampling of donors to get feedback and if they like it, we'll make a more public announcement of what we have in mind. This may take a few iterations of back and forth, but my main point here is that we are actively working on this issue. Another aspect of this is that donors should be prepared for changes in the point system that will result from this (and this often affects donors in different ways, some positively some negatively).

While I am sure the new plan, whatever it is, won't solve all issues, I agree there are some fundamental issues that need to be resolved and that likely can be with some changes.Prof. Vijay Pande, PhD
Departments of Chemistry, Structural Biology, and Computer Science
Chair, Biophysics
Director, Folding@home Distributed Computing Project
Stanford University
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