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When you remove the VRM heatsink you should be able to tell how good/poor the contact was. There should be indents in the pad for each mosfet. Hopefully these indents will also be present in the middle. These boards like to warp, mine did. Very poor contact in the middle but good contact on the two edges.

This pic is Fujipoly Extreme 11.0 W/mK. As you can see poor contact in the middle. Those diamonds in the middle are from the original packaging it was in. The stock pad should also show indents from the mosfets. If there isn't any indents then poor contact all the way around.

Edit: I was actually looking at that ANtec Spot Cool fan for possible blowing right on my GPU VRM heatsink (modded that Eznotech MST-88 onto GPU VRM). How loud is it? The heatsink works AMAZING on GPU when it has nice direct airflow. Like 50C max VRM temps with good airflow on it. 90C with poor airflow frown.gif.


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The Antec Spot Cool is surprisingly very quiet. It has 3 fan speed settings, and I have it on max. I ordered another from Ebay for $7, for my HTPC.
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It can screw into a PCI slot right? I might get one.
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Actually you don't need a jumper. All you need is anything metal to connect the two pins together, a screwdriver for example. Or a car key.

Good that you got it fixed thumb.gif

Really odd though. Just raising vcore shouldn't cause a boot loop like that. Are you sure the voltage you used was stable for the clock speed you had?

I only raised the V-Core to 1.37 to get it stable at 4.4Ghz, and 1.37 is not particularly high but I obviously done something wrong.. Aha, gotta say it freaked me out abit, thought I broke my Mobo or somthing... but all is good now biggrin.gif
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I have same board as you, same CPU, same Mosfet + NB block (got them on clearance, thanks PPCS!), and use Speed Fan for controlling rad fans.

TMPIN0 is ambient motherboard sensor. In my strong belief, TPMIN1 & TMPIN2 don't matter. No one truly knows what they are. All I can say is they change directly with CPU core temps. They're not the NB and not Mosfet. Maybe one is the socket temp (TPMIN2 maybe).

The only temp you need to worry about is the core of the CPU. AMD's recommended limit is 62C. SpeedFan only shows TMPIN0,1,2 temps. Not the core temp. I use TPMIN2 (Temp3 in SpeedFan) to control rad fans. This is almost always 10-12C higher than the CPU core.

So in SpeedFan you want the fans to ramp to 100% if core hits say 60C? Set Temp3 to go 100% at 70-72C. You can do this two different ways. First way: set a warning temp at 70C (fans will go to 100%) in the Temperatures tab. Second way: make a custom curve in the Fan Control tab using Temp3.

The only other important temp to worry about is Mosfets. No matter what anyone tells you there is NO sensor for mosfet/VRM temps. Only on Rev 4.0 and the 970A-UD3P boards. The only way to have an idea of what the temp is for these is to put a thermal probe (from a fan controller or something else) on the back of the board where the mosfets are.

My current OC right now is 4.837 GHz at 1.475 V set in BIOS on Medium LLC. This is a 225 FSB OC. Memory at 1800 MHz 8-8-8-24 1T 2475 MHz CPU-NB. A 220-230 FSB really seems to be a sweet spot for my chip. I have no problem giving you all my settings if you want to try them.

Notice all the info I gave is for a Rev 1.1 UD3. Many things are different for Rev 3.0/4.0.

Here is CPU-Z validation : http://valid.canardpc.com/kr6njd

Yes my tubing is turning green frown.gif. Something to do with all the copper in the loop and Durelene absorbing it.

Edit: yes the voltage rising at load is normal. That is LLC (Load Line Calibration). I set 1.475 V in BIOS but at idle it's 1.472. At full 100% load it get's to 1.502-1.52 V. This is perfectly normal. If you want to see a comparison of different LLC's on a Rev 1.1 UD3's look at this post I made few days ago: http://www.overclock.net/t/1023100/official-gigabyte-ga-990fxa-series-owners-thread-club/8430#post_21558519


Wow thanks for the information, helps a lot! I don't have any of my fans on a fan controller nor are they plugged into the motherboard. I am running them straight off a junction box from NZXT that comes with the case. All 11 fans on the radiator have 3 speeds and are set to medium speed at the moment. I saw your multiplier was 21.5 raised from the x20.0 stock right? did you adjust that or when you raised for the overclock you raised bus speed only? I have my HT Link running auto should i try to get it back to stock? A little confused sorry i am new at this. I do run the Rev. 1.1 UD3 though. Stressed on 4.5ghz atm is 39c and at idle its a cold as 10c lol
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Raised multi to 21.5 to get 4.83 GHz (max clock that passes IBT with my current voltage). My chip seems to really like FSB in the 220-230 range. I try to keep the FSB in this range and change the multi depending on what kind of clock I'm going for 4.7-5.2 GHz.

I was running a 5.04 GHz OC but I decided to drop the voltage and clock down. The VRM's were getting pretty toasty playing BF4 at 1.52-1.56 V. Plus that's just a lot of extra heat dumping into the loop for only an extra ~150 MHz or so.

If you're new to OC'in then just stick with stock 200 FSB and just raise the multi. When raising FSB you have to keep an eye on RAM clocks and the CPU-NB (memory controller in the CPU). HT-Link isn't a large concern. Just keep it in the 2600-2800 MHz range. It can go higher but 2600-2800 is generally stable.

The only reason to play around with raising FSB is some chips have sweet spots, dead spots too, where the amount of voltage required is actually less than when using a 200 FSB and multi OC.

Don't be surprised if you have to keep adding lots of voltage after 4.6-4.7 GHz. That's typically where these chips start needing a lot more voltage and producing a lot more heat.

Oh and my preferred monitoring software is HWiNFO64. It can be used with MSI Afterburner's On Screen Display in games. I always run the OSD with all my temps and other settings showing. I'm just OCD about always being able to see them tongue.gif
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HWinfo, totally.

Very usefull to know core temp/vrm temp/cpu total use, etc during gaming.

BF4 used my FX up to 58%, never saw other game doing that.
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Raised multi to 21.5 to get 4.83 GHz (max clock that passes IBT with my current voltage). My chip seems to really like FSB in the 220-230 range. I try to keep the FSB in this range and change the multi depending on what kind of clock I'm going for 4.7-5.2 GHz.

I was running a 5.04 GHz OC but I decided to drop the voltage and clock down. The VRM's were getting pretty toasty playing BF4 at 1.52-1.56 V. Plus that's just a lot of extra heat dumping into the loop for only an extra ~150 MHz or so.

If you're new to OC'in then just stick with stock 200 FSB and just raise the multi. When raising FSB you have to keep an eye on RAM clocks and the CPU-NB (memory controller in the CPU). HT-Link isn't a large concern. Just keep it in the 2600-2800 MHz range. It can go higher but 2600-2800 is generally stable.

The only reason to play around with raising FSB is some chips have sweet spots, dead spots too, where the amount of voltage required is actually less than when using a 200 FSB and multi OC.

Don't be surprised if you have to keep adding lots of voltage after 4.6-4.7 GHz. That's typically where these chips start needing a lot more voltage and producing a lot more heat.

Oh and my preferred monitoring software is HWiNFO64. It can be used with MSI Afterburner's On Screen Display in games. I always run the OSD with all my temps and other settings showing. I'm just OCD about always being able to see them tongue.gif

Okay so wait i am confused. Sorry i am still new at this. I shouldn't trying to just overclock the cpu by raising the FSB and voltage to see where i am stable at after running prime95 for a while? I should raise the multiplier instead? I haven't touched the multiplier yet because whenever i raised the FSB it would raise the number for Ghz on the cpu but kept the multiplier x20 which is stock right? I was worried seeing the Ht-link on auto and after running 4.5Ghz stable with a 220FSB x20 multi my HT-link was at 2859MHz. Should i force the HT-link to a lower setting? closer to stock or leave it on auto for now?
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It can screw into a PCI slot right? I might get one.
It has a hole in the end to screw through. So I used one of the screws that hold the motherboard in to hold on the fan. You could do the same with a PCI slot screw. The neck is bendable, and you can manipulate it.
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Okay so wait i am confused. Sorry i am still new at this. I shouldn't trying to just overclock the cpu by raising the FSB and voltage to see where i am stable at after running prime95 for a while? I should raise the multiplier instead? I haven't touched the multiplier yet because whenever i raised the FSB it would raise the number for Ghz on the cpu but kept the multiplier x20 which is stock right? I was worried seeing the Ht-link on auto and after running 4.5Ghz stable with a 220FSB x20 multi my HT-link was at 2859MHz. Should i force the HT-link to a lower setting? closer to stock or leave it on auto for now?

I would definitely only use a 200 FSB and raise the CPU multi if you're new to this.

Everything is based off the FSB and a multiplier. The CPU clock, CPU-NB clock, HT-Link, Ram clock, etc. If you raise the FSB then you raise the clocks for all of those things. Just keep a 200 FSB and raise the CPU multi and voltage for now. You can mess with FSB when you have a better understanding of how it works.

Someone recently posted an FSB chart that shows the relation between FSB and different multipliers for CPU clock, HT-Link, CPU-NB, and Ram. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Al3OKDjZIOcwdHJBU3RMWEpRMkgzQm1aOFk3bU9fcGc&output=html
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