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It may be silly to have a rig like this, but I've always wanted to build an ultimate gaming machine. Once I'm done with this seup I probably will not touch it for five years.

Eventually I'll try overclocking, and getting a higher resolution monitor, but this is mostly for the experience of building something like this. Even though it's been a pain in the ass so far, I'm still having fun problem solving, and it's a good experience, especially with such a great tech community to get info from.

And like I mentioned before I do see a benefit with 3 way, and I'm sure that will continue to be true as games advance over the next few years.
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Yea like I said I don't think it's downright foolish to keep all three but you have to understand the advice given by Flow3n is sound. 2 580s will still do 99% of what you need them to today and in the amount of years it would take for all 3 to be needed for a good experience, the amount of VRAM may have become a bottleneck. It's certainly up to you though and I don't think anybody would argue against how much fun 3 GPUs is sure to be if you are enjoying yourself. That's the key, if it stops being fun learning and dealing with little issues or bugs then it's time to simplify.

About the CPU OC you should certainly look into that sooner rather than later, I do believe that your CPU at stock won't be a serious bottleneck at all, but given how easy it is to OC and how you seem to enjoy learning, I would recommend going for atleast 4Ghz even on a stock cooler, and with a better CPU cooler then shoot for 4.5+Ghz.

Here is a great source of information that you can use to OC, it should have a great OC guide made by Asus themselves in the first post under toubleshooting.
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I do plan to overclock which is why I went with a K processor. I've been building PCs since I was 12, but always ran into stability issues when I would try to overclock.

I was thinking of holding off on that until the warrenties expire. This is the first time I've gone top end, and I don't want to fry anything.

I have a Cooler Master Hyper TX3 twin 92mm fan CPU cooler coming in the mail so I can overclock with some thermal headroom when I feel comfortable. My first thermal shutdown on this system was from the CPU (from one of the pins not seated correctly on the stock cooler) Which also only happened while gaming, so I though it was the CPU again at first, but it is fine now.
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I've had that CPU cooler and if you still can return it or refuse the delivery and go with a different one I would recommend that. You don't want the weakest link in your multiple thousand dollar system to be a $15 CPU cooler, not really where you can cheap out. It would still likely be fine for 4-4.3Ghz but like I said you do not build such a kick butt rig as yours and then top it off with a $15 CPU cooler, even in the $20-$30 range there are much better options.
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A few things come to mind:
1. Why do you have ~ $1500 worth of GPU's in a 6 year old crappy case?
2. Thermal limit on nvidia cards is 102c (nvidia recommends no higher than 97c, though shut down should only occur at 102+ although most users experience it around 103 - 105c)
3. A silverstone case would be perfectly fine as its forcing air up through the cards and will actually be the best solution for cards like yours as the positive pressure pushes all the heat out instead of letting it linger around the cards. A Fortress or Raven is the best air cooling case you can get.
4. If you're using 3x 580's you need to invest in a surround setup as there is absolutely no possible gains on 1080p systems, you'll be severely CPU limited in most games at that resolution.
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Here read this as to why the silverstone is not the ideal case for him. It would make the heatpipe in his Gigabyte windforce cooler nearly ineffective, leaving just the vapor chamber doing most of the work, this would certainly be less effective than a case like that HAF where he would still have plenty of airflow but would not lose the effectiveness of the heatpipes in his coolers. If you want to know more about this there is a whole lot of information in this thread here about it, but that thread's quite long and is mostly about the RV03 in general. I don't normally just say "take my word for it" but honestly take my word for it, I'm a big fan of silverstone cases (check my sig) and would have recommended one for him if it would have suited his needs.
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Thanks for the advice regarding the cooler. What do you think of the Cooler Master V8 and V10 devices?

I have the crappy case because I though it would be OK if I added additional fans. Although this is turning out to be an expensive setup, I am not trying to waste money. If I need to buy a new case in order to make it work correctly then I'll do it... and will probably order a HAF X this week.

I like the three card setup, because like I've posted before I do see an increase in performance in some games already, and I think this is an indication of how games will run over the next few years.

I agree that most games will not see a benefit since they are running at extremely high frame rates even with 2 way SLI.

I also may move to a multi monitor setup next year, or at least a display with a higher resolution.
Edited by tlr3715 - 6/25/11 at 10:28pm
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I don't think those coolermasters are supposed to be that good. My #1 favorite air cooler has got to be the one in my sig, the Noctua NH-D14, and that's a sentiment you will find many if not the majority of people around here would agree with, it's very likely the best aircooler on the market, but it does go for [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tech-data/B002VKVZ1A/ref=de_a_smtd/179-6725181-7039741"]about $80.[/ame] On the cheaper side of the market the only one I can recommend and say that most others would agree with me would be the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1309067613&sr=1-1"]CM Hyper 212[/ame], which is supposed to be just about the best value for cheaper HSFs.

In between those two in price I would probably pick the Corsair H60, which is supposed to be nearly as good as top aircoolers and at a pretty reasonable price of $55 after rebate. For more intricate recommendations than that I would refer you to the Aircooling section, because I'm not an expert on CPU cooling, I just did enough research to find out what would work best for me when I made my purchase and I've kinda lost track of the best deals in the marker.

I think a new case would be a good idea and the HAF X is the best one I can think of for your cards and needs, but feel free to ask in the Case section before you buy if you'd like to get more opinions.
Edited by juano - 6/25/11 at 11:01pm
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I don't think those coolermasters are supposed to be that good. My #1 favorite air cooler has got to be the one in my sig, the Noctua NH-D14, and that's a sentiment you will find many if not the majority of people around here would agree with, it's very likely the best aircooler on the market, but it does go for about $80. On the cheaper side of the market the only one I can recommend and say that most others would agree with me would be the CM Hyper 212, which is supposed to be just about the best value for cheaper HSFs.

In between those two in price I would probably pick the Corsair H60, which is supposed to be nearly as good as top aircoolers and at a pretty reasonable price of $55 after rebate. For more intricate recommendations than that I would refer you to the Aircooling section, because I'm not an expert on CPU cooling, I just did enough research to find out what would work best for me when I made my purchase and I've kinda lost track of the best deals in the marker.

I think a new case would be a good idea and the HAF X is the best one I can think of for your cards and needs, but feel free to ask in the Case section before you buy if you'd like to get more opinions.

Its not "the very best"
but it trades blows with the Thermalright Silver Arrow.
    
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Its not "the very best"
but it trades blows with the Thermalright Silver Arrow.

Well I would disagree, but that's just my opinion. Regardless I didn't say it was "'the very best" I said "it's very likely the best". I try to avoid statements like "the very best" because they don't leave room for any possible error on my part (and they make it seem like I'm an arrogant know it all), whereas "very likely the best" both leaves room for me to be wrong and, especially given context of it in my post, makes it clear that that is just my opinion (though as I said I think it's one many if not most would agree with).

Saying things like "the very best" is just an invitation for somebody to reply right back and try and disagree with or refute me, which is actually something I was trying to avoid... apparently I'll have to try harder next time I help somebody. smile.gif
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