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I'm not sure if you're talking to me, or someone else in the thread, but I fit that criteria. I didn't really use teh g400 enough because of the grip issues but I'd be happy to run it through a night of gaming to see how it performs. I never had an issue that I can remember with negative acceleration with the g400, but I was consciously worried about the slippery grip and it probably affected how I was playing.

I was able to use the 518 without much issue at all, and the grips just felt nicer to me.
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Originally Posted by Themanbeast;14574820 
I'm not sure if you're talking to me, or someone else in the thread, but I fit that criteria. I didn't really use teh g400 enough because of the grip issues but I'd be happy to run it through a night of gaming to see how it performs. I never had an issue that I can remember with negative acceleration with the g400, but I was consciously worried about the slippery grip and it probably affected how I was playing.

I was able to use the 518 without much issue at all, and the grips just felt nicer to me.

My post was originally directed at Ickz but if you can provide any information that would be just as helpful and appreciated.
post #83 of 305
Derp, the perfect control speed seems just as high. Though I might use a higher sense than some. In CSS, it takes me the whole mouse pad (fUnC 1030) which is 10" from side to side, to do a 180. I am not hitting the malfunction. I cant remember if my 518 did or not, ill look for my 518 when I wake up and decide to open more boxes. I just moved tongue.gif
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Definitely sounds great. May replace my spawn. Funny this mouse was on sale during mid of summer. Now the 518 on sale in the same stores and online retailers is even more expensive than the 400.
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So I got a replacement G400 from Logitech due to QC issues. Unfortunately this one suffers from the exact same faults.

1. Left mouse button is loose. There is a small gap between where the button sits in rest and the central bar sitting above it (the bit with wheel in). This results in a lovely rattle everytime you press and depress the button.

2. The right mouse button developed a charming fault after a few days use. There is now a crunch just before the switch activates, indicating the button is catching on something. It can be fixed for a few minutes by forcing the front of the button down, somewhat bending it.

3. Ghost scrolls are still present. Almost 1 in 10 scrolls result in an opposite direction scroll. This is due to the notches internally being uneven imo, allowing the wheel to rest on a notch.

1 and 2 can be fixed by taking the mouse apart. The wheel issue is pot luck with Logitech mice ime.
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Just put my g400 through the ringer for about 2 hours. Used a variety of pads just for comparisons sake - A Hien VE black, A puretrak talent, and a Zowie Swift.

As far as perfect control speed goes, it looks like the g400 is neck and neck with my DA black edition when I have the DA tape fixed. I was fairly incapable of making either hit negative accel unless I was literally swiping just to produce some sort of problem... both are capable of tracking at speeds well beyond what is needed, IMO. If I had to swipe at the rate I was going to produce problems, I'm dead in game anyway. Without the tape fix, I can't even do that with the DA, so while it wins, it's moot IMO. This was on all 3 surfaces I tried it on - I had a hard time getting either mouse to show signs of negative accel.

Oh, I should also note that I did this with my 3.0 for giggles, and actually lost my grip during a swipe. Rest in peace (pieces?), 3.0. :'(

My 518 worked similarly to the g400 as far as perfect control speed goes, maybe hitting the threshold a little sooner, but I had always used my 518 at 500 hz, so I could see that being the difference. My 518 is very old and pretty much a paperweight now,
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Originally Posted by Themanbeast;14584691 
Just put my g400 through the ringer for about 2 hours. Used a variety of pads just for comparisons sake - A Hien VE black, A puretrak talent, and a Zowie Swift.

As far as perfect control speed goes, it looks like the g400 is neck and neck with my DA black edition when I have the DA tape fixed. I was fairly incapable of making either hit negative accel unless I was literally swiping just to produce some sort of problem... both are capable of tracking at speeds well beyond what is needed, IMO. If I had to swipe at the rate I was going to produce problems, I'm dead in game anyway. Without the tape fix, I can't even do that with the DA, so while it wins, it's moot IMO. This was on all 3 surfaces I tried it on - I had a hard time getting either mouse to show signs of negative accel.

Oh, I should also note that I did this with my 3.0 for giggles, and actually lost my grip during a swipe. Rest in peace (pieces?), 3.0. :'(

My 518 worked similarly to the g400 as far as perfect control speed goes, maybe hitting the threshold a little sooner, but I had always used my 518 at 500 hz, so I could see that being the difference. My 518 is very old and pretty much a paperweight now,

Thank you for testing that for me, I really appreciate it. Sorry to hear about the IME 3.0. The results are certainly acceptable and what i would have assumed. I will consider grabbing a G400 if I can bring myself to buy another mouse with prediction.

Yesterday I flashed my DA 3G with its prediction firmware which makes it very similar to that of the MX518 and I played like complete crap. Even after hours of trying to adapt to it I just kept missing easy shots. Flash back to no drift control and I'm instantly playing MUCH better. I happily used a prediction filled MX518 for years.... I either need to take more time to adapt to the prediction or changing over to low prediction mice has spoiled me. frown.gif
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I really think prediction is hit or miss depending on what you're playing. Games like Quake, even cs 1.6 can have quite a bit of slight up/down movements and have smaller targets, so prediction could falter there. CS:S, by comparison, has a lot of more smoothed out ramps and the like compared to 1.6 as well as larger models, the combination of which can let you set a height for your crosshair and typcially be able to keep that and shoot people no problem.

Back when I really used my 518 a lot, it worked great for cs/css for me, but I played a lot more ut2k4 back then, and it was abysmal for UT IMO. That's what made me discover the 3.0 ^_^
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Themanbeast;14590469 
I really think prediction is hit or miss depending on what you're playing. Games like Quake, even cs 1.6 can have quite a bit of slight up/down movements and have smaller targets, so prediction could falter there. CS:S, by comparison, has a lot of more smoothed out ramps and the like compared to 1.6 as well as larger models, the combination of which can let you set a height for your crosshair and typcially be able to keep that and shoot people no problem.

Back when I really used my 518 a lot, it worked great for cs/css for me, but I played a lot more ut2k4 back then, and it was abysmal for UT IMO. That's what made me discover the 3.0 ^_^

I hate to use above-average prediction sensor on CSS - it is like oversmooth tracking and quite uncontrolable. but like to use it on CS1.6, but I gussess its more depens on situations.
But in general, I prefer to have 1:1 and want the mouse to tracks EXACTLY like my hands moving it to, so I perfer it not to be noticeable.
Edited by avinin1 - 8/15/11 at 10:07am
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Y U NO HAVE LOW CPI?

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