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Well if nothing we've suggested helps but then honestly I can't help much more, I beasically gave you everything I could in trying to help with ideas as to what the problem was, but i hope you find the problem, keep us posted as I'm still wondering what could be wrong.
I appreciate the help from all of you, I just think its odd when I google this problem (garbled text in memtest86) I get like zero results, is it really that rare to get issues like this?
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I would assume so but what I'm surprised by is the fact that nobody has been able to help you.
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so weird thing, with running memtest86+ I get no errors, ever, atleast the last time I ran it, and this is at 2133mhz. I get BSOD's at that speed in windows, so one thing I noticed is that with memtest86 it uses the CPU a lot more than memtest86+
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IMHO memtest86+ test means nothing because when I run it I dont get errors, but with memtest86 I do, and in windows I do.

well I dont mean it means nothing, I meant that it doesnt help me in this situation, other than showing me that something is wrong with my setup and it doesn't detect it.
That's EXACTLY why you made the right move in trying memtest86+. You stated yourself, memtest86+ tests only the RAM, while the other tests the CPU a lot more. This means that the problem might not be your RAM at all, it might be elsewhere - like the CPU's L2 Cache.

I can't recall if you've tried testing with Prime95, but to confirm that the issue doesn't lie within the RAM, try this:
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Note: when not using the "in place" option, be careful not to set the "memory to use" too high. If it's set too high, the system will start to use the paging file which will not stress the RAM.
One last thing:
You said you get BSOD's in Windows, but when exactly? Is it while you're playing a game, or just surfing the web? What?
 
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That's EXACTLY why you made the right move in trying memtest86+. You stated yourself, memtest86+ tests only the RAM, while the other tests the CPU a lot more. This means that the problem might not be your RAM at all, it might be elsewhere - like the CPU's L2 Cache.

I can't recall if you've tried testing with Prime95, but to confirm that the issue doesn't lie within the RAM, try this:
One last thing:
You said you get BSOD's in Windows, but when exactly? Is it while you're playing a game, or just surfing the web? What?
just doing anything, the first time I noticed something was up was when I moved my PC from one location to another right after I built it, and turned it on and right after windows loaded it BSOD'ed. It was a random occurrence after that. but what confuses me is that I ran prime95 on it for 13+ hours right before I did that and didnt get a single error.



Now since I knew something was wrong, I never ran prime95 again, and I switched out the RAM with a kit I had laying around (1600mhz CAS9 kit) and never got a BSOD after that, and told myself it was the RAM's fault and then I RMA'ed the RAM, got the new kit, and same issue, RMA'ed again got it back, same issue (errors on memtest86) then set it at 1600mhz and garbled text, changed it out with the 1600mhz kit, still got garbled text. but no BSOD's in windows, yet..

I should be able to run my RAM higher than 1600mhz without getting BSOD's, I did it with my AMD setup (1925mhz) so I think something is screwy, because I should be able to run it for hours on 1600mhz, without getting that, and 1866 should be easy as well (errors in like 5 mins usually)

anyways thanks for the help so far, I just wish there was a test out there that could completely tell me if its my CPU, or motherboard, or RAM that is doing this.
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just doing anything, the first time I noticed something was up was when I moved my PC from one location to another right after I built it, and turned it on and right after windows loaded it BSOD'ed. It was a random occurrence after that. but what confuses me is that I ran prime95 on it for 13+ hours right before I did that and didnt get a single error.
This reminds me of the exact time when I made my first build. Same stuff, same everything. Getting random BSOD's and no signs of bad hardware through Prime95 and the likes. However, the issue did end up being my RAM, but I only figured that out once I RMA'ed my CPU. I only did my RAM because it was easier than RMA'ing my motherboard.

It seems like you might have to go through a very similar situation, unfortunately. The problem is more than likely three things: the CPU, RAM, or motherboard. You already said you RMA'ed the RAM 3 times, and since you tried different RAM and there were no hardware errors with them, I think your CPU might be at fault here. There's no easy answer unfortunately. You will have to go through the tedious process of RMA'ing each part until the problem no longer persists.

I know what that's like, and it sucks monkey nuts, but you got to do it for your system's health, or you'll be seeing BSOD's forever.
 
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well my father is getting a i3-2100 and a GA-P67A-D3-B3 in on friday, so I'll be able to test it out on those components, and then I'll for sure know which part is causing all the problems.
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Why not just submit an RMA?
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Why not just submit an RMA?
well Im not 100% sure what part to blame yet, and why go through 2 RMA's when I can know for sure on friday and only do one then?

my CPU overclocked really well and I'm not so anxious to let it go, I hope its the board and not the CPU, I called Gskill up earlier today and they told me they would test this board with the exact RAM kit I have to see if there was something odd with it, he told me he would call me tomorrow morning with some info. I'm just taking all the steps I need before I do another RMA.
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got it
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so my kit is at fault for the 3rd time, I tried it at 1866 (just one stick) on the new pc (its a i3-2100 setup) and same errors on memtest86, both sticks, tried another kit of ram (crucial kit) and no errors whatsoever. I cant believe I have gone through 6 sticks of this stuff with it all being bad. thats unbelievable. the guys at gskill are dumbstruck. saying "no one has had issues with this kit." they told me that they would cover the expenses to ship it back and they would test it when they receive it to see whats the problem.

I am making a mental note right now though, I will never buy expensive RAM ever again, this is ridiculous, 3 kits bad, if they send me back another defective kit I dont think I'll deal with them probably ever again, atleast for a while because they cant be that bad at quality control.

I am going to run some further testing on it to be 100% sure, I will try to make it BSOD on me, and get errors on further testing. just to make sure, but this is all just driving me up the wall.
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