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I don't want to make it sound like I am defending Aqua Computer and their Aquaero, but seriously...

Look at it this way...

How long has Aquaero 4 been out?
How many updates and firmwares did they do on that?
How many people praise the Aquaero 4 now...?

I recall when Aquaero 5 was announced, there was so many Aquaero 4 users that was excited with joy..

Bottom line.. Aquaero 5 is a new product, all new product comes riddled with bugs and are worked out as time goes by... Aquaero is a niche product and has a lot of potential, and if anyone will follow up with the updates and keep it a "top of it's class" product, It's Aqua Computer... They have a history and I trust that over anyone's first time use of it's product and then flame it and call it crap..

For every 1 complaint about a product, there are probably 99 other users that are perfectly happy with theirs..

FYI: I just got my XT, PA2 x6, 2x inline sensor and flow meter today.. I will post if I find any problems or even if it's just running perfectly fine.. I'll post shots of it in my build log..

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Originally Posted by wetfit9;15576528 
Thanks for the infro. I want to keep it simple yet control everything from one place. So I will contact him. I have my cart filled but want to be sure. That is a lot of money to drop. Also my old fan controller just crap out on me so I have to do some here fast.

I was hesitant at first also, with the expensive euro and delivery, on top of this whole setup was not cheap.. I bit the bullet basically knowing that if it did not work as advertised, they'd help me get it up and running..

As long as you respect the Amps, run and set it up properly, it should work as advertised.. all other issues, they'll be happy to RMA it for you as I have read on many threads with returned broken XT's, etc...
Edited by frank anderson - 11/4/11 at 10:46pm
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Ok I was up late last night doing a lot of reading. I cannot fine an all in one do it system to compare to this. Most places I went there were people with some issues but a very high number got them worked out or it was the learning curb. Which I hear/read is steep at first. Learning how to set/install the first time. Also the lack of a manual or clear instructions in one place. With all that said. It is time to buy.
Now that it is time to buy. I want to make sure I get all the items needed to set and run when it comes in so I will not have to reorder a small item and pay for shipping twice.
So here is what I want to do and I will also list what I will order. Please, everyone review and make suggestions, complaints, add or subtract anything you feel will help.
Trying to control 14-17 fans. (ar-15's)
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PA mounting plate
Black cover for PA mounting plate
In line temp sensor x1
I already have a aquaero flow meter
"Y" connectors for the fans. ( how many I don't know and don't know if I should/or be able to run 2 or 3 on each fan connector/help on this)

Guys I await so I can order within the next 36 hours.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank anderson;15577975 
I don't want to make it sound like I am defending Aqua Computer and their Aquaero, but seriously...

Look at it this way...

How long has Aquaero 4 been out?
How many updates and firmwares did they do on that?
How many people praise the Aquaero 4 now...?

Does it matter? We're not talking about the old fan controller.
Quote:
Originally Posted by frank anderson;15577975 
I recall when Aquaero 5 was announced, there was so many Aquaero 4 users that was excited with joy..

Me included. That doesn't change the fact that this product is a failure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by frank anderson;15577975 
Bottom line.. Aquaero 5 is a new product, all new product comes riddled with bugs and are worked out as time goes by... Aquaero is a niche product and has a lot of potential, and if anyone will follow up with the updates and keep it a "top of it's class" product, It's Aqua Computer... They have a history and I trust that over anyone's first time use of it's product and then flame it and call it crap..

Of course every product has its bugs, but it's unacceptable to market a product with major, obvious issues (I'm talking about the metal rim that constantly triggers the capacitive buttons).
To put in perspective, imagine you bought a new car that for some reason has the pedal jammed and constantly accelerates. Wouldn't you be mad if they sold you such a car? And it's obvious that the manufacturer is aware of an issue like that, but decides to launch the product anyway, because little do they care about it.
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Originally Posted by frank anderson;15577975 
For every 1 complaint about a product, there are probably 99 other users that are perfectly happy with theirs..

Unfortunately, that is not so. Head over to the aquacomputer forums to see for yourself that countless users are disappointed to say the least.
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Originally Posted by frank anderson;15577975 
I was hesitant at first also, with the expensive euro and delivery, on top of this whole setup was not cheap.. I bit the bullet basically knowing that if it did not work as advertised, they'd help me get it up and running..

As long as you respect the Amps, run and set it up properly, it should work as advertised.. all other issues, they'll be happy to RMA it for you as I have read on many threads with returned broken XT's, etc...

The main issue here is the metal rim; if you (I) RMA it nothing will change, as soon as I install the new unit in my case everything will go haywire again.

For me it's over 200€ down the drain. I could try to sell the stuff, but who will want crap that doesn't work ??
post #54 of 126
Quote:
Originally Posted by wetfit9;15580429 
Trying to control 14-17 fans. (ar-15's)
Two D5 pumps
Flow meter
In line temp sensor

Ordering
Aquaero 5 Pro
Water block for Aquaero Pro
Black face plate for A5
Power Adjust 2 (x2)
PA mounting plate
Black cover for PA mounting plate
In line temp sensor x1
I already have a aquaero flow meter
"Y" connectors for the fans. ( how many I don't know and don't know if I should/or be able to run 2 or 3 on each fan connector/help on this)

Guys I await so I can order within the next 36 hours.

I'd use one PA2 for each of the D5 pumps, then seperate those fans in 4 groups for the 4 fan channels on the Aquaero. For the fans you can indeed use a bunch of Y-splitters, I just used a 3-way splitter for my 3 casefans and some custom splitters/extenders I soldered for my 9 external fans

For the flow meter make sure you have the proprietary cable as well to connect it to the aquaero. The PA2s are connected via the aquabus connection I guess, but I assume they come with the necessary cables (my pump did at least)

You'll get 4 temperature sensors with the Aquaero, I've added another 2 internal/external thread sensors. Getting 2 isn't totally necessary, but it's fun to see how much the water heats up between entering and exiting my blocks tongue.gif The internal/external thread sensors have the advantage that you don't need extra fittings to connect them compared to the inline ones

The RGB led is also a nice addition, it lights my reservoir and I use it to get a quick view of my water temp (20c or lower blue, 25c green, 30c red, and combinations for anything in between ofcourse). Furthermore I also bought the remote which I find pretty useful for configuring the few things that the software still doesn't support, and for switching profiles/pages and stuff because my rig is a few feet away from me smile.gif


@giecsar I saw something on their forums about a free new frontplate for the XT version for people who still have issues with the buttons after the latest firmware update? can't really help you with the multiswitch, but when you just install the latest Aquasuite and run it as admin, with the Aquaero connected to the motherboards internal USB port it should flash to the latest version. The blinking led is normal, mine does it as well.
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Originally Posted by n0n44m;15597338 
@giecsar I saw something on their forums about a free new frontplate for the XT version for people who still have issues with the buttons after the latest firmware update? can't really help you with the multiswitch, but when you just install the latest Aquasuite and run it as admin, with the Aquaero connected to the motherboards internal USB port it should flash to the latest version. The blinking led is normal, mine does it as well.

A new, free frontplate is the least they can do.
Now I've said this before, but since the firmware has a USB bug, I can't flash it over USB to fix it!!! frown.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n0n44m;15597338 
I'd use one PA2 for each of the D5 pumps, then seperate those fans in 4 groups for the 4 fan channels on the Aquaero. For the fans you can indeed use a bunch of Y-splitters, I just used a 3-way splitter for my 3 casefans and some custom splitters/extenders I soldered for my 9 external fans

For the flow meter make sure you have the proprietary cable as well to connect it to the aquaero. The PA2s are connected via the aquabus connection I guess, but I assume they come with the necessary cables (my pump did at least)

You'll get 4 temperature sensors with the Aquaero, I've added another 2 internal/external thread sensors. Getting 2 isn't totally necessary, but it's fun to see how much the water heats up between entering and exiting my blocks tongue.gif The internal/external thread sensors have the advantage that you don't need extra fittings to connect them compared to the inline ones

The RGB led is also a nice addition, it lights my reservoir and I use it to get a quick view of my water temp (20c or lower blue, 25c green, 30c red, and combinations for anything in between ofcourse). Furthermore I also bought the remote which I find pretty useful for configuring the few things that the software still doesn't support, and for switching profiles/pages and stuff because my rig is a few feet away from me smile.gif.

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First sorry for all the questions. I am asking questions everywhere I can.
What is some of the things you should do when you first get your items in to make sure you set them up correctly. trying to avoid problems.

Also, why this system over any other.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by giecsar;15581436 
Does it matter? We're not talking about the old fan controller.

Actually it does, I and many people I know will buy products based on a company's reputation and support for it's previous product line before attempting to get a newly released product..


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Me included. That doesn't change the fact that this product is a failure.

This is your opinion...

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Of course every product has its bugs, but it's unacceptable to market a product with major, obvious issues (I'm talking about the metal rim that constantly triggers the capacitive buttons).
To put in perspective, imagine you bought a new car that for some reason has the pedal jammed and constantly accelerates. Wouldn't you be mad if they sold you such a car? And it's obvious that the manufacturer is aware of an issue like that, but decides to launch the product anyway, because little do they care about it.

again, this is also your opinion.. I for one bought the XT and 6x Power Amps 2, will test it and give it a go myself..


Quote:
Unfortunately, that is not so. Head over to the aquacomputer forums to see for yourself that countless users are disappointed to say the least.

I also see a lot of happy customers over at xtremesystems.org (not comparing) that are more than helpful with AQ5 Q&A..


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The main issue here is the metal rim; if you (I) RMA it nothing will change, as soon as I install the new unit in my case everything will go haywire again.

This is a issue I am aware of, however AC has gone out of the way to help address this issue in my opinion.. Also this issue is only limited to a handful, there are also those who does not have this issue..

FYI: when I replaced my AQ5 front silver plate with a black one, the touch sensors acted funny.. I lessened the front plate screws by about a quarter rotation and it went away..
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For me it's over 200€ down the drain. I could try to sell the stuff, but who will want crap that doesn't work ??

I really am sorry and I feel for you.. I have had issues a long time ago with a Asus board, forgot which one it was, it was one of those nforce 4 based boards or whatever.. It was a piece of crap that just never worked right.. I ended up throwing it in the garbage and bought another board..

I spent a lot more than you for my AQ stuff, not trying to compare e-peen here but just be patient, try to get a better understanding of what the product can achieve and is designed for.. I am currently testing my AQ setup on a bench and have yet installed it.. Lets see where this goes..
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Originally Posted by n0n44m;15597338 
The RGB led is also a nice addition, it lights my reservoir and I use it to get a quick view of my water temp (20c or lower blue, 25c green, 30c red, and combinations for anything in between ofcourse). Furthermore I also bought the remote which I find pretty useful for configuring the few things that the software still doesn't support, and for switching profiles/pages and stuff because my rig is a few feet away from me smile.gif

oh so that's what the RGB Module is for...? I was wondering why it changed colors on me, I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.. I thought it was just purely for bling when I bought it.. Thanks..
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Originally Posted by wetfit9;15580429 
Trying to control 14-17 fans. (ar-15's)
Two D5 pumps
Flow meter
In line temp sensor

Ordering
Aquaero 5 Pro
Water block for Aquaero Pro
Black face plate for A5
Power Adjust 2 (x2)
PA mounting plate
Black cover for PA mounting plate
In line temp sensor x1
I already have a aquaero flow meter
"Y" connectors for the fans. ( how many I don't know and don't know if I should/or be able to run 2 or 3 on each fan connector/help on this)

I think it should be fine for AR15's as they use very little power, must less than mine which is 0.22amps I think, remember to use washers for the PA mounting, I explained it on the other site you posted at..

weird... according to the AQ5, they are reporting that my Gelid Wing 12 is using 110mA and I am running them at 100%, not sure if this is accurate but if it is, then the actual amp used is lower then that on their specs.. Just keep an eye on it as some manufacturers, I have seen CM famous for this, state a certain amp and find out later that it's much higher then listed..

I am trying to figure out the fan Y connectors also, I have asked on AC forum regarding if I can use the tach and flow connectors to power fans, or if I can only use the power output.. If on the PA2, you can only use the power output to connect fans, then you'd need a serious splitter.. something like 1 to 4..

You can try the D5 on pin 2 and 4 as I have seen someone done (I think it was phatboy) and have no issues, you can then connect 3 AR15 to channel 3 and something small on channel 1.. You might have to do some trial and error to see what is the best balance load wise..

As for the rest, it'll have to be split amongst the PA2, would be nice to be able to use the tacho and flow on it as power for fans..
Edited by frank anderson - 11/8/11 at 11:57pm
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So today I installed yet another aquasuite version.. this time it finally worked and allowed me to update the Aquaero firmware. Next I disabled the touch keys and everything seems to be fine.

I have one question though, what is the "USB LCD PAGE" ? I discovered it while toying with Aquasuite but on aquaero's display it's a blank screen...
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So today I installed yet another aquasuite version.. this time it finally worked and allowed me to update the Aquaero firmware. Next I disabled the touch keys and everything seems to be fine.
I have one question though, what is the "USB LCD PAGE" ? I discovered it while toying with Aquasuite but on aquaero's display it's a blank screen...

Are you referring to this screen? This is for the RGB Illumination module, you can control the LED colors based on the temperature of the source that it is attached to.

Aquasuite_LED.jpg

If not, please post a screenshot.
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No, see attached screenshot please:

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