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Why are you guys comparing a dual card ($800-$1000) set up to a single 7950GX2 ($550)? Of course the dual cards will be much better...

Anyway I'll be ordering the stuff today or tommorow, X6800 is shipped. Need some last minute advice:

1. Which sound card? I use ~$100 headphones, 5.1 speakers, nothing special.

2. Where can I get the G.Skill RAM?! Newegg is sold out.

3. Why are some x1900xt/cf cards listed as 2048x1536 max resolution? Is this a typo or true?

4. WHAT CASE! Lol, I can't decide between the sexiness of the 830 stacker vs. something like the server case posted by witchfire.

5. Which opticals? I want 2 dvd/cd/rw/blah blah drives. Lightscribe looks neat, and not expensive at all.

6. What site should I buy the prommy mach 2 GT from? What/Who is Chilly1?
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Because the 7950 is NOT single. It's two card, although it only takes one slot.

1) Sound: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102188 $111.19

2) Just get this RAM instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145033 G.Skill has tighter timings, which is nice, but the Corsair is also very good stuff. Or look at this G.Skill kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231077

3) checking...

4) TT Armor with the 250mm side fan.

5) Lite-On generally makes good drives. Don't fall into the trap of buying SATA opticals; still too much trouble with them

6) dunno.. ask the experts in the appropriate forum
    
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The 2048x1536 is for analog (CRT) displays. The X1900XTX has dual-link DVI ports, so resolutions higher then that are possible if you use DVI.
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That is correct They'll run up to the resolution of your monitor.
    
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Yeah you guys are right, but I'm just wondering why they bother to list some at 2048x1536 when they can just list all of them at 2560x1600, or all of them at 2048x1536@85Hz?

Anyway what are the disadvantages about the 830 stacker? I really don't know much about it but it looks big and cool as hell. And is the 25cm side fan armor better than a server case such as : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112119
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All these cases are great. I think the stacker and the armor are about a tie, but I just like that gargantuan side fan

The server case is a different type of animal, and the division in separate components has advantages. However, you'll have a bit less space for components in the chamber with the motherboard and cablelength might be an issue here.
    
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The armor with that side fan would be great but if your gonna have phase change cooling on it than its dont really matta about the fans
    
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That depends if you're going to hook up everything to phase. If the Video card(s) will still be air, then it does matter. And you still want a good airflow, even if it is just to keep the motherboard cool
    
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Yeah only the CPU will be phase. GPU will most likely be zalman VF900. Another thing is that I will need to cut a hole in the floor of the case to allow the phase cable to get to the CPU. It looks like it's easier to cut the armor than the 830 stacker.
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Originally Posted by Frozenshinobi
Why are you guys comparing a dual card ($800-$1000) set up to a single 7950GX2 ($550)? Of course the dual cards will be much better...

Anyway I'll be ordering the stuff today or tommorow, X6800 is shipped. Need some last minute advice:

1. Which sound card? I use ~$100 headphones, 5.1 speakers, nothing special.

2. Where can I get the G.Skill RAM?! Newegg is sold out.

3. Why are some x1900xt/cf cards listed as 2048x1536 max resolution? Is this a typo or true?

4. WHAT CASE! Lol, I can't decide between the sexiness of the 830 stacker vs. something like the server case posted by witchfire.

5. Which opticals? I want 2 dvd/cd/rw/blah blah drives. Lightscribe looks neat, and not expensive at all.

6. What site should I buy the prommy mach 2 GT from? What/Who is Chilly1?

For the most part, I won't argue with Chozart.. the man knows his stuff. I do dissent about a few things, though.

1. I can't suggest the X-Fi to anyone at this point. After personal experience with it, and a large amount of reviews & posts about problems with it that are more inherent to design rather than software, It's too much of a crapshoot for me. It may work stellar on your system, with nary a problem, but you may end up like I did & have horrifying crackling & screeching coming from your speakers. Instead, I suggest the Audigy 4. It's proven stable, & sounds phenomenal. As a bonus, It's about $25 cheaper than the X-Fi XtremeMusic.

2. It looks like the ETA for restock at the egg will be August 4th... That's not unreasonable, and personally, I'd wait for them to have it. Next to the Processor, memory is everything... You're building an extremely high end system, and to put anything less than the best memory in it would be counterproductive. I just got off the phone with newegg, and they stated that the 8/4/2006 date is correct, and they will have some in on that date.

3. I'm with Chozart, not really certain about that one. It may very well have to do with DVI out vs. VGA out.

4. I'm a stalwart for functional cases, but Lian Li has both style and major sex(geek) appeal. Nothing is cheaply done on their cases, and you'll never regret having an abundance of room. Something else to think about in your situation would be cooling. You've stated you will be going with a phase system, but have you decided on cooling for your chipset and video card(s)? If you're going with water cooling on them (HIGHLY recommended) the extra space at the bottom would make adding the pump, reservoir and such much easier, even possibly a bottom mounted radiator, for a very clean setup. Even if you don't go with that particular case, there are kits that Prometeria makes to match the outside of the phase system with certain Lian Li cases, and to mate up with the bottom of them better.

5. For an optical drive, I can't recommend the NEC ND-3550A enough. Very inexpensive, and I've never burned a coaster with it. Lightscribe is a cool technology, but I much prefer getting printable media, and being able to print my CD's & DVD's directly with color labeling, rather than monochrome, which you would be limited to w/ lightscribe. Also, extensive detail on lightscribe can take a LOT of time to create, whereas a good color printer could kick it out in short order.

6. I know CrazyPC is a good dealer, and have excellent support. I've been buying things from them for years, and they've always treated me very well. They stay pretty competitive with their pricing, as well... sometimes even giving better prices than newegg or Monarch. You may also want to look into getting a non-GT Mach II, as I've seen where regassing it & having some minor mods done will earn you better temps than a GT version. It's also about $150 cheaper than the GT, allowing some extra $$$ for the regassing of the unit, etc.

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