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Ok, so this is my first build and this rig is going to be tri-fire / eyefinity set up. I've been researching quite a bit and buying up components over the last several weeks. The build should be complete right around the end of the month. Here's a quick rundown:

- SilverStone RV02-E (In hand)
- i5 2500k (Shipped)
- ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z (In hand)
- 8GB Ripjaws X 2133 (Shipped)
- 3x XFX 6970's (Ordering @ end of month)
- Noctua NH-D14 (In hand)
- Corsair AX850 (ordering this week)
- WD Caviar Black 640GB (in hand)
- OCZ Vertex 3 60GB
- Run of the mill asus dvd burner (in hand)

I went back and forth between the 2500k and the 2600k for weeks, and finally settled on the 2500 since I will be primarily gaming with it and OC'ing it. And I realize the 2133 mhz ram is really not necessary, but with promo code on newegg, it was only $75. However, the stock timings are 11-11-11-30 - will I be able to get those down a bit?

Also, I recently realized that I mistakenly ordered a sata 2 HDD, and I will be ordering another Caviar Black 750GB sata 3. Will there be a pretty noticeable speed difference between the two? Also, if one is sata 2 and one is sata 3, will I be able to put them in RAID 0?

And just to be clear on the SSD Caching, I can just set aside 18.6 GB for caching, and use the rest for the OS and a couple games, is that correct? Can the caching feature be used with the 2 HDD's in raid 0 ?
    
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For the RAID 0 question (I personally cannot stand RAID 0) just put both HDD's in the SATA 2 ports and you're be fine.
The other questions I cannot answer.
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Well, I'm not that concerned about putting them RAID 0, I was only originally planning on having one HDD anyway, and the only reason I would be buying the 2nd is to take advantage of the SATA 3 speed. I just figured if it could be done, then why not? So if they cant be sata 2 & 3 and together, then I will just have them separately, not a big deal to me.
    
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i think you can still tighten the ram timings a lil bit more.
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Originally Posted by RockHardMcNasty View Post
Also, I recently realized that I mistakenly ordered a sata 2 HDD, and I will be ordering another Caviar Black 750GB sata 3. Will there be a pretty noticeable speed difference between the two? Also, if one is sata 2 and one is sata 3, will I be able to put them in RAID 0?

And just to be clear on the SSD Caching, I can just set aside 18.6 GB for caching, and use the rest for the OS and a couple games, is that correct? Can the caching feature be used with the 2 HDD's in raid 0 ?
Your build is going to be awesome. I'd love to see a build log.

SATA III on mechanical hard drives (non-ssd) will provide the same speeds as SATA II, because they will never reach the max speeds anyway. SATA III is also backwards compatible so you would be fine to plug any SATA III drive into a SATA II port. RAID also works over any combination of the SATA types. You would be best to save your money and order a SATA II hard drive, if you still want to RAID 0 it.

Yes you can allot the size that you want for SSD caching, and I believe you can use the remaining as a regular drive. Theoretically you should be able to cache a RAID 0 (or RAID 1, 5, 6, 10) array just like you would with a single drive, however the one person who tried to do this (that I can find) couldn't get it to work (however I'm willing to say that it was just him). It'd be really great if you could test this out as I want to do this .
 
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Originally Posted by samywamy10 View Post
Your build is going to be awesome. I'd love to see a build log.

SATA III on mechanical hard drives (non-ssd) will provide the same speeds as SATA II, because they will never reach the max speeds anyway. SATA III is also backwards compatible so you would be fine to plug any SATA III drive into a SATA II port. RAID also works over any combination of the SATA types. You would be best to save your money and order a SATA II hard drive, if you still want to RAID 0 it.

Yes you can allot the size that you want for SSD caching, and I believe you can use the remaining as a regular drive. Theoretically you should be able to cache a RAID 0 (or RAID 1, 5, 6, 10) array just like you would with a single drive, however the one person who tried to do this (that I can find) couldn't get it to work (however I'm willing to say that it was just him). It'd be really great if you could test this out as I want to do this .
Very informative, thanks!

If that's the case, I might as well just get another identical HDD. It would be nice to have them set up like that.
    
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BenQ XL2720T 120Hz CM Storm QuickFire Rapid w/ Red Switches Corsair AX 850 SIlverStone Raven RV02-E 
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post #7 of 7
Hmm. Don't order one of the Vertexs. They've had reliability issues; instead, go for something like an Agility 3 or an Intel 320 Series.
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