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Brand new build to replace parents' aging HP Pavilion with Athlon X2 3800+, 2GB DDR2, Geforce 6150SE, and... VISTA! Gotta say that I'm really glad I didn't go with the Lian Li V354. The TJ08-E is one of the best cases I've ever worked with. It makes cable management a breeze, looks great, has plenty of space to work with (once the HDD cage is removed) and is a good deal at just under $100. And I'm surprisingly not missing the full aluminum construction of Lian Li in this case, since the steel seems to be of great quality.

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Core i5 2550K at 4.2GHz 1.256v
2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24-2T 1.5v
Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3
Visiontek Radeon HD4870 512MB (reused from 2008 build)
Samsung 830 128GB SSD
Western Digital Scorpio Black 500GB 2.5" HDD
Corsair H60
Silverstone X-750 Gold
Silverstone FP58B 5.25" slot-loading bezel (both 2.5" drives are installed on the bottom mounts)
Lite-On DL-8A4SH slot-loading DVD burner
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Windows 7 Professional x64

I did have some issues where POST reported USB overcurrent on startup, and found out that loosening the mobo tray standoff screws fixed it... at least for now. I bought the mobo open box from Newegg so hopefully it's not defective.
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Originally Posted by BadDad62 View Post

I can suggest here
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or here
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also under the mechanical HDD as shown here

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as you can see, you can easily fit 3 or 4 SSD or 2.5" mechanical drives w/o using any type of "cage" and very slight mod. as far as 3.5" mechanical HDD, you can see the "floppy" bay can easily accept a HDD. other locations are across the bottom of the case, tho you'd need to drill some holes and remove the HSF holder to mount the drives themselves. the TJ08-E is very flexable and moddable if you really wanted to and it's really not designed to have that HDD cage biggrin.gif

other modifications include rotating the HDD cage so the IO portion of the cage face the left side of the case (much like the orientation of the SSD i shown above) that takes alittle more more to mod but entirely possible. here is a pic of the mod

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Edited by psyclum - 4/23/12 at 2:14am
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So are most people going with the AIO liquid coolers for this case? most of the recent images seem to show these :S

psyclum, I'm kind of surprised Silverstone didn't orient the drive cage side to side (as in your image above) That shows there is enough width and it prevent conflicts with 3.5" drives and RAM/HSFs. Don't suppose you have anymore info/links to how that mod was achieved?
post #1544 of 7204
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Dear BadDad62,
Great solutions to that problem! Where are the cables? And do you know how the SSD is mounted?
Do you - just as psyclum - think it's paranoid to install an extra 92 mm fan blowing air to the GPU? Silence is very important to me smile.gif
Best,
Peter

the cables are generally routed through the back of the mobo tray. there is actually quite abit of room there.

as far as the 92mm fan. as fans get bigger, the efficiency of CFM per decibel improves. so adding another 92mm fan will definitely add to the acoustical signature of the system. i honestly do not think it would help temp wise since most people underestimate the amount of air the AP181 can push... being a smaller case, the amount of distance cool air has to travel before reaching hot components is significantly shorter so the resulting cooling effect is greater then you would have in a larger case. i'm not saying absolutely no to the 92mm fan idea, i'm just saying try it out 1st and see what kind of temps you are getting. if it's fairly frosty then there wouldn't be any reason to add more decibel's.

the only change i'd recommend if you have a spare 5.25 bay is a rheosmart6 fan controller. it can help in further controlling your noise level when you are just surfing the net or otherwise idle.
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Originally Posted by martianaphid View Post

So are most people going with the AIO liquid coolers for this case? most of the recent images seem to show these :S
psyclum, I'm kind of surprised Silverstone didn't orient the drive cage side to side (as in your image above) That shows there is enough width and it prevent conflicts with 3.5" drives and RAM/HSFs. Don't suppose you have anymore info/links to how that mod was achieved?

i think that was a temp solution either through Velcro or double sided tape biggrin.gif the pic is from this thread but maybe 50 pages ago? biggrin.gif as for why silverstone didnt orient the drive cage like that... all i can say is the mod does block more airflow from the AP181 thereby starving the RAM/CPU cooler of "direct" airflow from the AP181.

as far as AIO cooler, they really have not been proven worth the effort IMO. a top of the line air cooler has been proven to be just as effective if not better then the AIO's even the H100 has a hard time beating out a quality cooler like NH-D14 if the case has good airflow design.
Edited by psyclum - 4/23/12 at 2:42am
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

. the TJ08-E is very flexable and moddable if you really wanted to and it's really not designed to have that HDD cage biggrin.gif
other modifications include rotating the HDD cage so the IO portion of the cage face the left side of the case (much like the orientation of the SSD i shown above) that takes alittle more more to mod but entirely possible. here is a pic of the mod
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thats easy to do but i've changed it a little and am not using the bottom single hdd bay and putting the 4 drive bay straight on the floor for some more room for things. biggrin.gif

i'm using VELCRO to secure and absorb some vibrations thumb.gif

Still a working on it working out some cabling as we speak thumb.gif
Edited by BadDad62 - 4/23/12 at 3:42am
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Love this case, I don't have it but I'm thinking of buying it soon. I have yet to "build" a computer and bought a CM 690 II a few months back awaiting ivy bridge to be released. Now I love that case but, the small form factor of the TJ08-E somehow attracted me to it. I haven't bought a motherboard or CPU yet but now I'm thinking of just going the MATX route and purchasing one for this specific case. I have a few questions though.

How would the CM 212+ with Gentle Typhoon Push/Pull be in this case?
I Haven't bought a motherboard as of now. Are the 100-150$ z77 MATX boards okay in this price range?
Back to cooling, during the summer this case will be getting a lot of use. How are summer temps?

Lastly thank you for such a great thread fell in love with this case after seeing all the pictures.
And sorry for anything stupid I might have said. biggrin.gif
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i think that was a temp solution either through Velcro or double sided tape biggrin.gif the pic is from this thread but maybe 50 pages ago? biggrin.gif as for why silverstone didnt orient the drive cage like that... all i can say is the mod does block more airflow from the AP181 thereby starving the RAM/CPU cooler of "direct" airflow from the AP181.
as far as AIO cooler, they really have not been proven worth the effort IMO. a top of the line air cooler has been proven to be just as effective if not better then the AIO's even the H100 has a hard time beating out a quality cooler like NH-D14 if the case has good airflow design.

Yeah, from what I've read you need to spend a fair bit more to get comparable performance from an AIO compared to a traditional HSF - the trade-off is obvioulsy space to move inside the case! I've seen the little 'review' of the Noctua and Silver Arrow in this thread and obviously they work great but I'm a little concerned by clearance - mainly to the first PCIe slot - apologies if this is a dumb question but I don't suppose you know if the distance from the socket is constant across various boards i.e. is the 3-4mm clearance to the GPU he got with the Silver Arrow something that I would also get with my motherboard (Asus P8z77-M Pro).

psyclum, the Noctua is a bit out of my price range (£60-70) I was considering stretching to the Silver Arrow (also seems to be a bit quieter than the Noctua) which is about £50 but only if I can be assured it will fit my motherboard-GPU. Another option is the TRUE spirit, you appear to be a bit of a veteran of this thread so I don't suppose you remember seeing anything mentioning whether or not it fits - no worries if you haven't wink.gif (I did do a quick search but nothing popped up). If I can't get either of those I will downgrade a bit to something like the Hyper 212 Evo, BeQuiet Shadow Rock or Gelid Tranquillo.

ANDMYGUN, I've been looking a lot at coolers for this case and the CM 212 would work but I would recommend the Evo version. From what I have read it performs better and the fan is quieter, which might mean you can get away with the stock fan (at least at first). Also a second fan (push/pull) might only get 2-3 degrees (the heatsink itself is fairly narrow so one fan serves it pretty well) extra so you might want to test out 1 fan to start with and add another later if you feel temps are too high. GL with the build smile.gif
Edited by martianaphid - 4/23/12 at 3:50am
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AHH. Already bought the CM 212+ Though I already have the Gentle Typhoons so if I didn't Push/Pull I'd be using the GT's as a paper weight. haha. I'd really like as much air circulation there can be in the case. Hell if I could fit all 4 GT's in it that would be awesome. so where I'm standing the Push/Pull looks the best. Any word on the motherboard part?
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Ok I see well then push/pull makes sense if you have the resources already wink.gif As for the motherboard I'm also waiting on Ivy Bridge but I'm fairly set on Asus P8z77-M Pro, even if IB turns out a bit disappointing and I get a SB I think the extra features on the Z77 mean it makes sense to get that. At least here in the UK the Z68 and Z77 are almost the same price wise (for mATX boards) but the Z77 have a few more newer features (PCIe 3.0/USB3 from the PCH/Lucid MVP) which made the decision for me.
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