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psyclum, the Noctua is a bit out of my price range (£60-70) I was considering stretching to the Silver Arrow (also seems to be a bit quieter than the Noctua) which is about £50 but only if I can be assured it will fit my motherboard-GPU. Another option is the TRUE spirit, you appear to be a bit of a veteran of this thread so I don't suppose you remember seeing anything mentioning whether or not it fits - no worries if you haven't wink.gif (I did do a quick search but nothing popped up). If I can't get either of those I will downgrade a bit to something like the Hyper 212 Evo, BeQuiet Shadow Rock or Gelid Tranquillo.

ANY of the top rated HSF should perform within 1 or 2 C of each other. so if you can get SA at a cheaper price, by all means get the SA smile.gif at that level of performance, it really comes down to personal preference. there is no practical difference in their ability to cool down the CPU. IMO the difference between noctua and silver arrow? different colored fans biggrin.gif really, at that level of performance, the TIM you use and your skill in applying the TIM will make more of a difference biggrin.gif

as far as location of the socket, not all mobo place their sockets in the same location. however, there are really only a few mobo's that are ever in discussion in OCN biggrin.gif OCN members tend to lean towards some of the highest performing equipment on the market, meaning half of the time they are talking about asus RoG boards and the clearance / distance offered by high performance boards like that smile.gif "generally speaking" each manufacture stick with one design, so if an ASRock board fits, then chances are all ASRock boards will fit. etc...

PS since you are in Europe, see if you can get your hands on a nice thermaltake HR02 macho. the HR02 is the heatsink that TJ08-E was designed around (the macho version is simply a cheaper version but includes a fan. whereas the HR02 was designed as a passive unit) in fact, when the TJ08-E was debuted at computex 2011, their demo unit sported an HR02 to show off the case's ability to accept large tower heatsinks. here is the vid on it. TJ08-E starts at around 9:15 into the vid.

in the vid, you can see how close the HR02 is to the rear exhaust area. if you put an rear exhaust fan, it would function more or less like a pull fan. while the stock fan provided by the HR02 macho would function much like a push fan so you have a push/pull on a heatsink that was essentially designed to function well even as a passive unit biggrin.gif
Edited by psyclum - 4/23/12 at 5:56am
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OK so I checked the images from pg. 12 of the thread and the guy is using a GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 (quite a mouthful), I got the manual for this board and for the Gene V and the P8Z77-M Pro and SSed all the board layout diagrams. As far as I can tell the position of the socket on the two Asus boards is pretty much the same and assuming the diagrams are accurate the Gigabyte socket is 2mm further from the GPU and 5mm further from the RAM slots - now that's assuming the diagrams are accurate, I'd guess they are close but not exact - I think lightsout is getting the SA this week, not sure which board he's getting but would love to see the pics of it installed.

I've had the RoG boards before but for this build I decided to scale it back a bit and save some cash for elsewhere in the build but I know what you mean most of the people here are pretty serious and whilst I consider myself an enthusiast I have this annoying constraint of a budget wink.gif As far as I can see the Gene V and M Pro are quite close though, the Gene obviously has the extra features and power phases to support its price though.

Looking at the vid the HR-02 is huge :0 it looks so close to the GPU, that's my main worry with these huge coolers? is that not a concern for shorting or am I getting worried over nothing? I'll have a look if its available here though as according to the specs its 140mm wide whereas the SA is 147mm so on paper it should have more clearance!

Anyway thanks for the help psyclum +REP smile.gif
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OK so I checked the images from pg. 12 of the thread and the guy is using a GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3 (quite a mouthful), I got the manual for this board and for the Gene V and the P8Z77-M Pro and SSed all the board layout diagrams. As far as I can tell the position of the socket on the two Asus boards is pretty much the same and assuming the diagrams are accurate the Gigabyte socket is 2mm further from the GPU and 5mm further from the RAM slots - now that's assuming the diagrams are accurate, I'd guess they are close but not exact - I think lightsout is getting the SA this week, not sure which board he's getting but would love to see the pics of it installed.

I've had the RoG boards before but for this build I decided to scale it back a bit and save some cash for elsewhere in the build but I know what you mean most of the people here are pretty serious and whilst I consider myself an enthusiast I have this annoying constraint of a budget wink.gif As far as I can see the Gene V and M Pro are quite close though, the Gene obviously has the extra features and power phases to support its price though.

Looking at the vid the HR-02 is huge :0 it looks so close to the GPU, that's my main worry with these huge coolers? is that not a concern for shorting or am I getting worried over nothing? I'll have a look if its available here though as according to the specs its 140mm wide whereas the SA is 147mm so on paper it should have more clearance!

Anyway thanks for the help psyclum +REP smile.gif

I have the asus maximus Gene-z. The SA should be here today hopefully I can get it installed.

There is pics in this club with the SA installed.
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post #1554 of 7201
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Looking at the vid the HR-02 is huge :0 it looks so close to the GPU, that's my main worry with these huge coolers? is that not a concern for shorting or am I getting worried over nothing? I'll have a look if its available here though as according to the specs its 140mm wide whereas the SA is 147mm so on paper it should have more clearance!
Anyway thanks for the help psyclum +REP smile.gif

what?!??! that HR02 has like 3 millimeter clearance smile.gif plenty of room. biggrin.gif you'd be surprised how small the clearances are when you build an ITX box tongue.gif anyway, if it bothers you that much, put some electrical tape on that side of the HSF so even if they do touch, it wont harm anything. smile.gif as i mentioned, it's the demo unit that silverstone used to debut the TJ08-E case at computex. it's where you KNOW there are tons of very discriminating eyes and fingers looking at / touch the product... they can't really afford to have a demo unit fail inspection at a big show like computex smile.gif BTW, if you look close enough, the mobo they used in the video is in fact a gene-Z (red and black memory slots in mATX = gene-Z)

besides if you are worried about the HR02, then you definitely need to worry about the silver arrow biggrin.gif

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as you can see, the silver arrow is 7mm wider then the HR02 so that means 3.5mm closer to the GPU if you are installing it on the same mobo smile.gif
Edited by psyclum - 4/23/12 at 9:12am
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Front panel connectors are my biggest fear and I have always left them unplugged. Is this correct connected? If yes, what holes have you used for cable manegement? I havent tightend the cables yet because I have alot more to install
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@ lightsout, yeah that was the post I have been using as reference, my main concern though was "what if the sockets is closer on my board" but maybe I'm just cursed with over thinking things redface.gif Hope things go smoothly when your SA arrives, and please do let us know how it goes, I for one would be interested smile.gif

@psyclum, thanks for the reassurance, yeah that makes sense, plenty of scrutinising eyes at computex. This will be my first mATX build, I'm used to fairly 'spacious' cases so I'm not familiar with these small margins - strangely enough the efficiency of how the stuff fits in there is one of the reasons I'm opting for this case!

@zelly, why are you afraid of connecting the FP connector? The Asus boards come with a Q-connector into which you put all the small case connectors HDD_LED, PWR, etc then just plug the Q-connector to the Asus - there shouldn't be any problems, or are you asking if you should not connect it until later once you've cable managed? EDIT: nm I can see that you have used the Q-connector.
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@ lightsout, yeah that was the post I have been using as reference, my main concern though was "what if the sockets is closer on my board" but maybe I'm just cursed with over thinking things redface.gif Hope things go smoothly when your SA arrives, and please do let us know how it goes, I for one would be interested smile.gif
@psyclum, thanks for the reassurance, yeah that makes sense, plenty of scrutinising eyes at computex. This will be my first mATX build, I'm used to fairly 'spacious' cases so I'm not familiar with these small margins - strangely enough the efficiency of how the stuff fits in there is one of the reasons I'm opting for this case!
@zelly, why are you afraid of connecting the FP connector? The Asus boards come with a Q-connector into which you put all the small case connectors HDD_LED, PWR, etc then just plug the Q-connector to the Asus - there shouldn't be any problems, or are you asking if you should not connect it until later once you've cable managed? EDIT: nm I can see that you have used the Q-connector.

Yes I have, maybe a bad pic. I just hate connecting them, because all the time they did not work lol. So never bothered, but think I got it right now so I can finally use the frontpanel and not just plug everything on the back lol:D I have all parts exept my modular PSU which will be coming in 2-3 days. Can I still install the other parts or should I wait until my psu arrives?
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Zelly, the front panel is a very useful thing to have working wink.gif what did you do to turn your machine on?!

As for Connecting stuff up, it's personal choice. If it's fully modular then it should be a doddle to hook the cables up after and even if not I think it will be easier to put the psu in near to end and just pull the cables through whichever holes work out best. One thing I would leave until last is the optical drive as it will give you more room to manouver your PSU in and get the cables working neatly, then just slot it in last.
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Zelly, the front panel is a very useful thing to have working wink.gif what did you do to turn your machine on?!
front panel power buttons are so overrated tongue.gif

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Zelly, the front panel is a very useful thing to have working wink.gif what did you do to turn your machine on?!
As for Connecting stuff up, it's personal choice. If it's fully modular then it should be a doddle to hook the cables up after and even if not I think it will be easier to put the psu in near to end and just pull the cables through whichever holes work out best. One thing I would leave until last is the optical drive as it will give you more room to manouver your PSU in and get the cables working neatly, then just slot it in last.

Okay thanks, will continue building then. I've just used the start button on the motherboards when I havent used the frontpanel connectors:D Do you know what slot I should use for my gtx 480?
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