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Maybe you can leave the cpu at stock and just oc the gpu since you are concerned about graphic performance. You need to figure out your stock load temps first and foremost.
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I'll be in the club on Tuesday once mine arrives. smile.gif


CPU - i5 2500K
Mobo - Asus Z68 IV Gene-Z
RAM - Lots of Kingston RAM
GPU - Asus 560TI
SSD - 64GB M4
HDD - lots
PSU - Either Corsair HX650 (it blew earlier on today, need to send it back to Corsair) or Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 600W (just ordered as a replacement, not going to wait 2/3 weeks for the Corsair to come back)
CPU Cooler - Corsair H50 (if it still works, not sure if it does)


All to go inside. thumb.gif
post #1654 of 7158
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If I put a 180 RAD as I saw in previous post and keeping my HDD Cage I will not know where to put my pump smile.gif I tested a DDC pump mounting in the second 5 bay but the pump was more noiser that my actual aquastream. But maybe it's an idea to dig... Cleary I don't need the space right now to add a second RAD but I can still add a second fan to my RAD. I just check and the space between the connector of my GPU and my fan is enough for that (with a margin of 1 or 2 mm ^^)

you lose your HDD cage if you go with a 180rad. your best option right now might be putting either the GPU or the CPU on air cooling (CPU is easier since you've already put the coolplate on the GPU) if you must keep all those gear in the system.

other alternative would be an external rad, but that gets into a good bit of modding.
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So I was just scrolling through the newegg case selection and ran across this bad boy. I've done some searching and haven't heard anything in regards to being able to mount an h-100 over the front dual 120's. Has anyone seen this done? I think it will fit just not certain if the tubes will make it to the motherboard processor. Any thoughts?

Side note: I'm not using the bays so its okay if the radiator extends into those areas.



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Thanks for your replies smile.gif
My goal with this build is to setup a PC for playing in good condition and silence and having enough secure disk space as storage without having several devices (HTPC + separate NAS) mainly because I don't have the enough space for all these devices. So I wanted to have "all in one".. I'm not lookong for max OC but just playing game with full details and antialiasing max. And the storage is justify because I will setup my own server and install some virtual machine (as I'm developper I don't want to make my system disk dirty with IDE and other libraries ^^)... I bought this case because it is small and have an big HDD cage... that fit perfectly with my needs smile.gif
But as I'm noob in watercooling I tried to read a lot about it but sometimes they are some technical topic too difficult to understand for me smile.gif but I tought that with a "simple" loop like mine, a single rad would be enought. It seems that I'm wrong. If I put a 180 RAD as I saw in previous post and keeping my HDD Cage I will not know where to put my pump smile.gif I tested a DDC pump mounting in the second 5 bay but the pump was more noiser that my actual aquastream. But maybe it's an idea to dig... Cleary I don't need the space right now to add a second RAD but I can still add a second fan to my RAD. I just check and the space between the connector of my GPU and my fan is enough for that (with a margin of 1 or 2 mm ^^)

Yeah like the other two guys here mentioned. First find out your stock clock temps. Typically I would recommend 120mm JUST for the cpu, another 120mm for the gpu. A single 180mm radiator Personally dont think it would be enough to overclock both cpu and gpu. I personally dont think even at stock clocks on gpu and cpu that a single 120mm with push/pull can stay cool for a game like bf3 that uses very bit of power a pc has.

You already have a lot of money into the liquid setup. I would recommend adding another radiator, a 180 and keeping the 120 but then you have to do something else for storage. Or go external radiator like someone else said. Pick your poison. I would do something else for storage.

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Your most likely going to need to go with a smaller resivour, you really dont need one that big anyways with a good radiator setup. That would free the 5.25" bays for hard drives but not four 3.5" drives I dont think. Four 2.5's would fit up there or other arrangements, maybe if you get creative with a bracket you can get four 3.5's though, someone in here might have done that.
Edited by 66racer - 4/29/12 at 9:31pm
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in theory, i can fit 4 x 3.5 inch mechanical hdd in that case w/o the HDD cage, however, by putting a 180mm rad in the front, you are essentially dumping the heat off the rad right onto the HDD's. that is not good for the overall health of the HDD hence reducing the reliability of your data.... not something you want to do. if you absolutely need a raid, consider 2.5 inch drives. they use less power and are easier to relocate w/o being in direct path of heat. as i mentioned earlier, if you want this box to play games, a RAID array is not what you want in this box. get a SSD, and a storage drive. if you want redundancy, you can put 2 storage drives in the system and mirror it. but 4 storage drives in a system like that will cost you your gaming / cooling ability.
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in theory, i can fit 4 x 3.5 inch mechanical hdd in that case w/o the HDD cage, however, by putting a 180mm rad in the front, you are essentially dumping the heat off the rad right onto the HDD's. that is not good for the overall health of the HDD hence reducing the reliability of your data.... not something you want to do. if you absolutely need a raid, consider 2.5 inch drives. they use less power and are easier to relocate w/o being in direct path of heat. as i mentioned earlier, if you want this box to play games, a RAID array is not what you want in this box. get a SSD, and a storage drive. if you want redundancy, you can put 2 storage drives in the system and mirror it. but 4 storage drives in a system like that will cost you your gaming / cooling ability.

Yeah but I dont think the air coming out the radiator will be hot enough to do any damage. Liquid cooling and so many hard drives in this case is a little tough, give n take on performance vs cooling

edit: I do think 2.5's would be better too but honestly they need to be moved to a NAS box or something
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Yeah but I dont think the air coming out the radiator will be hot enough to do any damage.

well... that depends on how you look at heat. there are 2 distinct aspects of heat that must be considered, temperature and thermal energy. temperature is measured in Celsius/Fahrenheit and thermal energy is measured in watts/BTU's. temperature is what damages the equipment, however, thermal energy determines the extent temperature can be mitigated. a radiator cooling off a 200w GPU is pumping that amount of thermal energy into the air. anything in the path of that thermal energy will be absorbing that thermal energy till it reaches the same temperature of the air. the effect is essentially raising the ambient temp of the items (HDD) you are trying to cool down. there is a very clear understanding of how an elevated ambient temperature affects cooling so there is no need to get into that right now. sufficient to say that it's definitely not a good idea to dump that much thermal energy into an enclosed environment when other components inside that environment also requires cooling.
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you lose your HDD cage if you go with a 180rad. your best option right now might be putting either the GPU or the CPU on air cooling (CPU is easier since you've already put the coolplate on the GPU) if you must keep all those gear in the system.

other alternative would be an external rad, but that gets into a good bit of modding.

you'll also reduce power consumption more by cooling GPU more than the CPU
Edited by Iketh - 4/30/12 at 12:00am
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