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post #1661 of 4402
4/29/12 at 11:59pm
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VERY serious problem IMO. here are relevant links
http://www.overclock.net/t/1248454/tpu-ivy-bridge-temperatures-could-be-linked-to-tim-inside-integrated-heatspreader-report
http://www.overclockers.com/ivy-bridge-temperatures
basically intel got cheap on the 1 place they shouldn't have. that tard move pretty much negated the benefits you gained from a die shrink.... frown.gif they used TIM instead of solder to put the IHS on the chip doh.gif they saved $0.05 on a $200 chip... and now sandybridge runs cooler then ivybridge...

does this mean removing the IHS is once again viable/possible?

edit: never mind, just read through it and that's all they're talking about lol
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post #1662 of 4402
4/30/12 at 12:26am
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Just by adding a new fan for a push/pull config, is the temp will go really down ? Do you think I have the place to add it in my build without unmounting the tube ? Maybe I could add it outside the case?

Had the same issue in my cm690 even with a 240mm + nearly passive 360 in my current cm690II my temps are 30 idle to 60 load. Push/pull is really only good for a few degrees cooler.
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your primary problem is the overall surface area that is available for heat dissipation in a single 120mm rad. having a push/pull will help, but not to the degree you are looking for. i also question if the enermax fan you have on the rad is providing enough static pressure for a thick rad. you may have to invest in a pair of high pressure GT's or deltas. ideally you should go back to air cooling on the CPU to reduce the heat load that the rad has to dissipate. that, or remove the RAID5 and go with a 180mm phobya rad in the front of the case.
what it really comes down to is what exactly do you expect this box to do? as a pure server, there is no reason to have a gpu powerful enough to require liquid cooling. as a gaming box, you really shouldn't have a RAID5 using up that HDD cage. you can easily run a game box off a SSD + 4TB storage drive. any other storage needs can be done via USB3.

the more i looked at my 120mm in my TJo8E the more i needed more rad, i can't use a 180mm as i want as many hard drive as i can get in. So here's where i'm up to now.
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post #1663 of 4402
4/30/12 at 12:48am
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the more i looked at my 120mm in my TJo8E the more i needed more rad, i can't use a 180mm as i want as many hard drive as i can get in. So here's where i'm up to now.
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well.... that is definitely a bold move especially if you figured out how to plug your video cables in with that setup smile.gif (might be easier if you move the GT to the pull side of the rad instead of the push side where the HDMI cable connects) may need to get one of these
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to facilitate HDMI connection.

the 38mm thick 120mm fan is good for static pressure, but maybe quite abit louder then you are used to. i'm somewhat concerned with the overall weight of the rad and it's effect on the structural integrity of the case once liquid is filled.... may need to figure out some other mounting points to take some load off the 120mm exhaust port on the bottom back of the case otherwise it may bend the chassis given the weight of the rad, fans and liquid. alternative is to stick little rubber feet at the bottom of the rad to let it support some of its own weight.

overall, i LIKE it smile.gif it's a bold move and it actually looks pretty bad arse biggrin.gif it will DEFINITELY help with your current heat situation. the only issue i can see right now would be long term dust problem on the top half of the rad (the side facing the HDMI cable). but i think you can resolve it with a removable dust filter if there is enough room.
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post #1664 of 4402
4/30/12 at 2:04am
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Yeah. I use the top vent for the psu intake also. Its just more logical and I.bet it was their writers for the manual that misinterpreted the engineer's directions LOL

I thought this too, so I contacted Silverstone and got this response this morning: -

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Although the "correct manual" that he links to is the one I linked to a few pages back and it still says that if the PSU fan is 120mm or larger, it should be pointing down into the case.
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post #1665 of 4402
4/30/12 at 5:12am
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well.... that is definitely a bold move especially if you figured out how to plug your video cables in with that setup smile.gif (might be easier if you move the GT to the pull side of the rad instead of the push side where the HDMI cable connects) may need to get one of these
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to facilitate HDMI connection.
the 38mm thick 120mm fan is good for static pressure, but maybe quite abit louder then you are used to. i'm somewhat concerned with the overall weight of the rad and it's effect on the structural integrity of the case once liquid is filled.... may need to figure out some other mounting points to take some load off the 120mm exhaust port on the bottom back of the case otherwise it may bend the chassis given the weight of the rad, fans and liquid. alternative is to stick little rubber feet at the bottom of the rad to let it support some of its own weight.
overall, i LIKE it smile.gif it's a bold move and it actually looks pretty bad arse biggrin.gif it will DEFINITELY help with your current heat situation. the only issue i can see right now would be long term dust problem on the top half of the rad (the side facing the HDMI cable). but i think you can resolve it with a removable dust filter if there is enough room.

Thanks psyclum, the video cable plugs in with a little modding as will the 38mm fan (7volt modded), In reflection I may just 7 volt mod the GT as well.

The rad even fluid filled adds no real strain or twisting on the rear panel suprisingly enough.

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4/30/12 at 5:59am
that's nice smile.gif i really didn't think you could fit the DVI cable with the rad so close, but you definitely proved it otherwise smile.gif i'm also surprised that the chassis is able to hold up that rad setup w/o bending, i guess TJ08 uses thicker steel then I thought it did biggrin.gif now you just need to find some flat screw heads for the GT so you can put one of those magnetic dust filters

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that came with the TJ08 on the GT for easy removal/cleaning.
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post #1667 of 4402
4/30/12 at 6:43am
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Yeah. I use the top vent for the psu intake also. Its just more logical and I.bet it was their writers for the manual that misinterpreted the engineer's directions LOL

I thought this too, so I contacted Silverstone and got this response this morning: -

3RvmT.jpg

Although the "correct manual" that he links to is the one I linked to a few pages back and it still says that if the PSU fan is 120mm or larger, it should be pointing down into the case.

Ha ha I knew it.
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post #1668 of 4402
4/30/12 at 6:49am
Put this in the wrong thread originally


I noticed this review on silentpcreview http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1261-page7.html and thought it might work. I am about to build my system with a ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M motherboard and Corsair low profile DDR3 RAM . Presently I have a Noctua NH U12P SE cooler still in the box but if this new cooler will work I might consider exchanging the NH U12P for it. The problem I face with the old cooler I have is if I put a hard drive in the Temjin Tj08-e upper cage it will block use of the second fan pushing air.
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post #1669 of 4402
4/30/12 at 7:09am
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I would strongly recommend you switch to a HR02 macho instead of the 212 evo if you are going to run passive. also what speed are you running the AP181 at?

Just realized your question, sorry! The AP181 switch is in the low position with the bios settings mentioned in my original post.
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4/30/12 at 7:39am
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that's nice smile.gif i really didn't think you could fit the DVI cable with the rad so close, but you definitely proved it otherwise smile.gif i'm also surprised that the chassis is able to hold up that rad setup w/o bending, i guess TJ08 uses thicker steel then I thought it did biggrin.gif now you just need to find some flat screw heads for the GT so you can put one of those magnetic dust filters
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that came with the TJ08 on the GT for easy removal/cleaning.

Good thinking '99', countersunk screw heads for the magnets to hold onto thumb.gif

I was impressed with the strength as well smile.gif DVI plug needed to have one screw removed and still holds securely.
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