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Racer that looks dope. So with that 3.5 adapter you can still keep the from cover on the 5.25 bay? I like that. I may have to get one to get my hard drive off the floor of the case. Actually I may have one lying around but didn't think the front would close. I'll have to try.

You can even have 4 Hdd's and keep the bay covers thumb.gif

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I'm also interesting about this configuraiton smile.gif Could you provide us more photos ? Like with the cover and some to see the space at the bottom ?
    
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I'm also interesting about this configuraiton smile.gif Could you provide us more photos ? Like with the cover and some to see the space at the bottom ?

450

like this?

i'm off to sleep, 2.45am tues morning here biggrin.gif
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What do you guys think about stacking rads? I have the Kuhler 920 in push pull on my cpu. Was thinking of putting the Kuhler 620 on my gtx 680. I was thinking of putting the rad at the back of my pull fan on the 920.

As long as this wouldn't kill my cpu temps I think the gpu temps would still be much better than on air.
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What do you guys think about stacking rads? I have the Kuhler 920 in push pull on my cpu. Was thinking of putting the Kuhler 620 on my gtx 680. I was thinking of putting the rad at the back of my pull fan on the 920.
As long as this wouldn't kill my cpu temps I think the gpu temps would still be much better than on air.

your cpu is a 95 watt chip. your gpu is a 195 watt chip.
you are using a better CLC on the cpu then the gpu...
and now you want to dump all of the heat from your cpu onto the gpu?

that's like using a hair dryer as a push fan on a rad... great static pressure, but counter productive as far as cooling...
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Yeah I see your point but I bet it would still cool better than the stock air cooler. Despite all the wattage numbers and all that gpus are much easier to cool under water compared to cpus.
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Yeah I see your point but I bet it would still cool better than the stock air cooler. Despite all the wattage numbers and all that gpus are much easier to cool under water compared to cpus.

this is where most of the misunderstanding about liquid cooling comes from. most people think liquid cooling actually "cool down" the components... they don't. liquid cooling "transports" heat away from the heat source. AFTER it has been "transported" away from the heat source, then it can be "air cooled" by the fans through the radiators. the water itself is only a transporting medium not the actual cooling engine. the cooling engine is still the surface area that the radiator has and the amount of air flowing through it via the push/pull fans to dissipate the heat.

what you are proposing is dumping the 95 watt (cpu) thermal load onto the 195watt (gpu) thermal load while expecting the "smaller" radiator of the 2 to cool down a combined load of 290watts of thermal energy. IF the smaller radiator is unable to cool down that combined energy load, then that energy is transported BACK to the GPU via the continuous water flow creating a thermal feedback loop.

remember, the advantage of a liquid cooling system is it TRANSPORTS heat away from the heat source so that heat load can be cooled down elsewhere. somewhere that will have less size restriction for the amount of surface area to dissipating the heat load.
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Yeah I see your point but I bet it would still cool better than the stock air cooler. Despite all the wattage numbers and all that gpus are much easier to cool under water compared to cpus.

this is where most of the misunderstanding about liquid cooling comes from. most people think liquid cooling actually "cool down" the components... they don't. liquid cooling "transports" heat away from the heat source. AFTER it has been "transported" away from the heat source, then it can be "air cooled" by the fans through the radiators. the water itself is only a transporting medium not the actual cooling engine. the cooling engine is still the surface area that the radiator has and the amount of air flowing through it via the push/pull fans to dissipate the heat.

what you are proposing is dumping the 95 watt (cpu) thermal load onto the 195watt (gpu) thermal load while expecting the "smaller" radiator of the 2 to cool down a combined load of 290watts of thermal energy. IF the smaller radiator is unable to cool down that combined energy load, then that energy is transported BACK to the GPU via the continuous water flow creating a thermal feedback loop.

remember, the advantage of a liquid cooling system is it TRANSPORTS heat away from the heat source so that heat load can be cooled down elsewhere. somewhere that will have less size restriction for the amount of surface area to dissipating the heat load.

Ok I'm with you there. I'm trying to figure if there is a place that I can mount the additional 120 rad. Possibly in front of the 180mm fan. Not sure if the air flow would be enough. I'm thinking maybe hanging from the 5.25 bay blowing down.
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this is where most of the misunderstanding about liquid cooling comes from. most people think liquid cooling actually "cool down" the components... they don't. liquid cooling "transports" heat away from the heat source. AFTER it has been "transported" away from the heat source, then it can be "air cooled" by the fans through the radiators. the water itself is only a transporting medium not the actual cooling engine. the cooling engine is still the surface area that the radiator has and the amount of air flowing through it via the push/pull fans to dissipate the heat.
what you are proposing is dumping the 95 watt (cpu) thermal load onto the 195watt (gpu) thermal load while expecting the "smaller" radiator of the 2 to cool down a combined load of 290watts of thermal energy. IF the smaller radiator is unable to cool down that combined energy load, then that energy is transported BACK to the GPU via the continuous water flow creating a thermal feedback loop.
remember, the advantage of a liquid cooling system is it TRANSPORTS heat away from the heat source so that heat load can be cooled down elsewhere. somewhere that will have less size restriction for the amount of surface area to dissipating the heat load.

Great explanation. thumb.gif
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Ok I'm with you there. I'm trying to figure if there is a place that I can mount the additional 120 rad. Possibly in front of the 180mm fan. Not sure if the air flow would be enough. I'm thinking maybe hanging from the 5.25 bay blowing down.

well.... that really depends on how much modding you are willing to do on your case biggrin.gif

it was suggested in the past that IF a 2nd 120mm rad must be mounted internally, you can theoretically cut a hole on the roof of the 5.25 bays and mount the rad on the roof as an exhaust point. obviously you will lose the ability to use the 5.25 bays (hence any possibility of putting additional HDD's in that location) but it will solve your thermal problems. there are compromises that must be made and you are the only one that can decide what you are willing to give up. we can only offer theories and possibilities.
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I'm thinking ghetto style. Like suspended from the 5.25 bays with zip ties. I already have the 180 as exhaust so it would blow straight into the fan and out.
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