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Originally Posted by 66racer View Post

I actually tried both in my case. I kept the FTW. Personally both cool about the same but generally people will recommend the exhaust style in a small case to help keep the inside as cool as possible, the nice thing is that the FTW can use 680 water blocks if you ever go water, The asus one might take a while or might not even get one. Keep in mind my ambient has been 78-80F too and both coolers did great. I cant really compare temp/ghz since the asus couldnt even be stable at 1180mhz, it crashed once on heaven and passed the other, the FTW did 1215mhz stock without even overclocking. But the asus at 70% fan at a lower clock was about the same temp as the FTW at a higher clock at 70% so Im guessing both coolers are pretty good with the 670 since the FTW uses the 680 cooler. The difference between the two is sound level, the Asus is SILENT!!!!!!! I had fans at 70% on the asus and it was hard to hear, the FTW matching that sound level needs to be at about 60% fan speed.

Hello,

I was looking at both of these cards to build my new config. I am now convinced to get the EVGA 670 FTW for 3 main reasons:
- your input
- exhaust fan
- my contacts with EVGA customer service which was pretty impressive

Now I have just a question for you (as you own this card). As I am looking for a silent gaming PC (without WC) I wonder if it is easily doable to benefit from the 680 design of the 670 FTW to downclock it slightly (maybe @normal freq) so that the fan becomes nearly silent, or at least the noise same level as ASUS DCUII TOP?

thanks,
Julien
post #2112 of 7170
After messing about changing between fan clips and the fan shroud I eventually spotted why my HSF was clashing with my GPU! During the mounting process the heatsink base must have slid off-centre before being fully tightened putting it ~5mm closer to the GPU than it should have been. After removing the whole thing and remounting it (properly this time wink.gif ) I decided it was time to fully cable manage this little thing and get it completed (having been in a stage of partial completion for the last few weeks :S )

Though it's a tight space to work in I personally found it quite fun building in this case, granted I did want to keep my build fairly minimal, but it all ended up having far neater cable management than my full tower case because of all the nifty features for cabling.

I've spotted a bit of discussion on what GPUs to opt for with this case and whilst ultimately I think someone like 66racer's or GrimReaperhdi's input on the matter is probably the most valuable having tested both types of coolers I'll chime in on my experience. I opted for an aftermarket cooler with the primary goal being silence but at the same time I haven't noticed any temperatures that would cause me concern, with both the GPU or the CPU. If I were to be doing a dual GPU setup the story would probably be completely different but from my personal experience I think a SINGLE aftermarket cooled GPU is fine in this case. Should it not be I do have a PCI slot cooler on hand to remove the excess heat inside the case but I'm hoping to not have need for it.

Anyway, here is the finished article:

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post #2113 of 7170
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Originally Posted by bArAkA01 View Post

Hello,
I was looking at both of these cards to build my new config. I am now convinced to get the EVGA 670 FTW for 3 main reasons:
- your input
- exhaust fan
- my contacts with EVGA customer service which was pretty impressive
Now I have just a question for you (as you own this card). As I am looking for a silent gaming PC (without WC) I wonder if it is easily doable to benefit from the 680 design of the 670 FTW to downclock it slightly (maybe @normal freq) so that the fan becomes nearly silent, or at least the noise same level as ASUS DCUII TOP?
thanks,
Julien

Oh for that I wouldnt worry, Its VERY quiet up to 60% fan and that should be more than enough. I use 70% in 78F ambient temps. When the card reaches 70C its not overheating, it just drops the clock down 15mhz to meet certain limits in the card. I think actual overheating is 90c but I wouldnt want it near 80c. You can downclock it if you need to but at stock you probably wont need more than 60% anyways.

I will get a video up tonight. Gaming my setup is VERY quiet. Wish the front fan on low and rear fan at 50% cpu max on a 4.8ghz 2700k is 62c, if the front is on high I get 58-59c. The gpu I like to have under 70c so I have it at 70%. I will game on it tonight with stock fan profile and report how high the fan goes up too. Cool thing stock my card was at 1215mhz, but yes you can downclock it further too

martianaphid

Yeah honestly either cooler will work, if silence is more important an aftermarket cooler is better, but exhausting the air out the back in this case is a nice feature. Since going from the gtx570 asus dcii to the ftw670 temps did drop maybe 1-2c or so, I have to compare to my data but even then I never had heat issues with any components.

Im really picky keeping things cool since I love running overclocked, the cooler the better is how I see it once you push things outside their factory spec.
Edited by 66racer - 6/6/12 at 12:07pm
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post #2114 of 7170
Here is a noise level video of my setup in the signature for my 2012 nerd box.

NOTE:************************
To reproduce true/accurate sound levels you might need to crank up your speakers, I used my cell phone to make the video and it didnt pick up the fan noise as good as the keyboard. I usually keep windows volume at 100% with my stereo logitech 2.0 system and use the dial on the speakers, I had to crank the speakers to max to get the right effect but might be different for your setup. Had to do about the same with my corsair 1500 headset too though. Those with a tj08e can tell by comparing to their front 180mm fan but with a radiator behind the stock 180mm fan noise pitch slightly changed.
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Procedure used:
1- 180mm fan at low, then high, then low
2- 180mm low- 670ftw idle fan, then 60%, 180mm fan switched high, then back low
3- 180mm low- 670ftw from 60% to 70%, 180mm set to high, then 670ftw back to 60%, 180mm switched to low- end video

Basic setup of noise related items:
-stock 180mm fan intake
-magicool 180mm radiator (adds small amount of noise to 180mm fan vs no rad)
-antec 920 kuhler in loop with 180mm radiator (intake) and stock 120mm radiator (exhaust) (mod)
-coolermaster excalibur 120mm fans push/pull on 120mm rad. about 35% speed
-evga gtx670 ftw
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and an update to mine, some stuff came in smile.gif
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Is that the ek pump res combo, if so how is the noise levels on it?
post #2116 of 7170
So, I am thinking of purchasing this case for my new up-comming build, I just have a few questions regarding clearance issues, I'll be running GTX 670's in SLI for this new build but am a little torn on what to do about a CPU cooler, Would my best bet be to get something like the Noctua NH-U12P SE2, To minimize any clearance issues?

Current specs that i'll be ordering soon,

Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V GENE Motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i7 2700K

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB FTW (x2 Running SLI)

SSD: Intel 520 Series 240GB SSD

PSU: Seasonic XP-860 Platinum

Case: ???

CPU Cooler: ???

Any help appriciated
Edited by gumbie - 6/7/12 at 4:51pm
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As far as I'm aware, there are very few clearance issues with this case. Something like the Hyper 212 can get close to the GPU if you mount it vertically but I've never seen it so close it doesn't fit.

The cooler you mentioned looks fine. The clearance for this case is 165mm max so you are plenty under with that (if you count 7mm as plenty, which I do)

Just make sure you have RAM clearance which will be fine if you get the low profile Vengeance set.

Anyone else have more detailed information? I'm no expert, just been studying for my build for a long time.
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As far as I'm aware, there are very few clearance issues with this case. Something like the Hyper 212 can get close to the GPU if you mount it vertically but I've never seen it so close it doesn't fit.
The cooler you mentioned looks fine. The clearance for this case is 165mm max so you are plenty under with that (if you count 7mm as plenty, which I do)
Just make sure you have RAM clearance which will be fine if you get the low profile Vengeance set.
Anyone else have more detailed information? I'm no expert, just been studying for my build for a long time.

Okay awesome, One more question, Will the PSU i've selected fit with the TJ08? The measurements of the PSU are as follows, 190W x 150L x 86H
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ooh, unfortunately I would have to say no. That PSU is 190mm long and the MAX this case can do is 180 with a STRONG recommendation for 160 (because the CD drive backs up to it and cable plug ins can interfere with each other easily). I would suggest something like a modular corsair professional series or the NZXT Hale82's look pretty good.

Corsair AX850

Hale82 850

P.S. As for your build, your motherboard is awesome but your cpu is the second generation i7. If all you are doing is gaming, then go for the newest i5, 3570k because the features that the i7 has over the i5 are all for things like video editing and number crunching. If games are all you care about, go for the i5 and you'll only need 8 GB of RAM as most game won't even come close to filling that.

Newsflash: EVGA just released new 4GB 670's. There are both reference and superclocked versions and they have backplates!

Reference

Superclocked

Did I mention the reference one is only $30 more than if you bought a 2GB FTW and 680 backplate? I was gonna get an FTW as well but now I have some decisions to make. Damn these multiple options!
Edited by krkhans - 6/8/12 at 12:41am
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ooh, unfortunately I would have to say no. That PSU is 190mm long and the MAX this case can do is 180 with a STRONG recommendation for 160 (because the CD drive backs up to it and cable plug ins can interfere with each other easily). I would suggest something like a modular corsair professional series or the NZXT Hale82's look pretty good.
Corsair AX850
Hale82 850
P.S. As for your build, your motherboard is awesome but your cpu is the second generation i7. If all you are doing is gaming, then go for the newest i5, 3570k because the features that the i7 has over the i5 are all for things like video editing and number crunching. If games are all you care about, go for the i5 and you'll only need 8 GB of RAM as most game won't even come close to filling that.
Newsflash: EVGA just released new 4GB 670's. There are both reference and superclocked versions and they have backplates!
Reference
Superclocked
Did I mention the reference one is only $30 more than if you bought a 2GB FTW and 680 backplate? I was gonna get an FTW as well but now I have some decisions to make. Damn these multiple options!

Only reason I opted for the 2700k is because I've been hearing the newer generation of cpus doesn't overclock any better then the older generations? And for the 670 4gb's I don't think i'll see them anytime soon in Australia tongue.gif.
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