Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Computer Cases › Silverstone TJ08-E Owners Club.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Silverstone TJ08-E Owners Club. - Page 246

post #2451 of 4369
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

i think we are both saying the same thing but from different points of view. reality is we don't ever pull the combined TDP of the components used even under heavy OC due to usage pattern. is it possible to pull more then TDP? yes. OC + synthetic load. but you also pointed out the fact that nobody uses furmark continuously on a daily basis smile.gif the most people ever draw is 350w during game load. and that's considering you are talking about the notorious power hog that is the 580. 6xx or the 79xx chips with 28nm tech runs cooler from an architectural point of view. can you OC it to a point to make it run hot? sure push anything far enough it'll run hot. but the fact is on a stable build, you are not likely to see greater then combined TDP of the components used. TDP is not the most accurate measurement for power draw. but on average it's a good measuring stick to remind people just how little power we actually use. (and how there is almost no reason to buy a 1kw+ PSU due to ATX specification limitations tongue.gif )

Yes. I think we are tongue.gif. Let's agree to agree on each others statements. Haha. =D
MahRig
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k Asus Maximus Gene V Asus Direct CU II GTX 670 G Skill Ripjaw X 8GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill Falcon SSD 128GB Seagate 2TB Crucial M4 128GB Noctua U9B SE2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ult 64 Dell U2711 Leopold FC700R Corsair HX 650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone TJ08-E Logitech G500 Razer Kabuto Shure SRH 840 Headphones 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Edifier S330D Audioengine D1 Logitech 9000 Logitech Mic 
  hide details  
Reply
MahRig
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k Asus Maximus Gene V Asus Direct CU II GTX 670 G Skill Ripjaw X 8GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G Skill Falcon SSD 128GB Seagate 2TB Crucial M4 128GB Noctua U9B SE2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ult 64 Dell U2711 Leopold FC700R Corsair HX 650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Silverstone TJ08-E Logitech G500 Razer Kabuto Shure SRH 840 Headphones 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Edifier S330D Audioengine D1 Logitech 9000 Logitech Mic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2452 of 4369
Looks like I've gone ahead and gotten a MO-RA3 4x180MM instead.
Got a bundle deal over at OCAU inc 4 G-Silent Slim White Fans and the rad stands.

Also got a EK supreme HF Acetal instead of a heatkiller 3.0 which saved me about $60 odd.
Awaiting all parts then I can start stripping down my PC. thumb.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2453 of 4369
Quote:
Originally Posted by Borarah View Post

Looks like I've gone ahead and gotten a MO-RA3 4x180MM instead.
Got a bundle deal over at OCAU inc 4 G-Silent Slim White Fans and the rad stands.
Also got a EK supreme HF Acetal instead of a heatkiller 3.0 which saved me about $60 odd.
Awaiting all parts then I can start stripping down my PC. thumb.gif

would be interesting to see what kind of temps you get running that rig fanless smile.gif 4x180mm is a BIG rad and it might have enough surface area to do just that smile.gif

also as a reminder to get some of those silverstone 180mm fan filters for those fans.
Edited by psyclum - 8/5/12 at 9:33pm
post #2454 of 4369
Once I get everything together. I'll try passive then compare the performance with the fans attached. Don't think I'd need fan filters, don't see a point in it. I don't even know how many FPI the RAD has. By eye, it looks like 7.2FPI.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2455 of 4369
FPI matters less the larger rad you go with. your heat load is constant (less then 400w for anything you can actually fit inside the TJ08-E) so the larger rad you can use, the overall mass and surface area to dissipate that heat also increases. the sheer amount of copper / aluminum / and circulating water all contribute to the heat capacity as well as dissipation. unless you are folding 24/7. the heat capacity of your overall system will do quite abit of "cooling" already. (takes alot of heat simply to heat up the water you have circulating as well as the rest of the mass associated with your cooling system regardless if you are actually dissipating any heat at all) it's like if you hook up your liquid cooling system to a swimming pool. it needs no heat dissipation because it's impossible for your computer to generate enough heat to heat up the pool even 1C regardless how hard you OC your system biggrin.gif

anyway. will be looking forward to seeing your results. it's something i'd like to try if i ever decide to go liquid. i'd just bolt a small car radiator on the side of my FT02 and run the whole thing passive biggrin.gif
post #2456 of 4369
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
FPI matters less the larger rad you go with. your heat load is constant (less then 400w for anything you can actually fit inside the TJ08-E) so the larger rad you can use, the overall mass and surface area to dissipate that heat also increases. the sheer amount of copper / aluminum / and circulating water all contribute to the heat capacity as well as dissipation. unless you are folding 24/7. the heat capacity of your overall system will do quite abit of "cooling" already. (takes alot of heat simply to heat up the water you have circulating as well as the rest of the mass associated with your cooling system regardless if you are actually dissipating any heat at all) it's like if you hook up your liquid cooling system to a swimming pool. it needs no heat dissipation because it's impossible for your computer to generate enough heat to heat up the pool even 1C regardless how hard you OC your system biggrin.gif
anyway. will be looking forward to seeing your results. it's something i'd like to try if i ever decide to go liquid.
i'd just bolt a small car radiator on the side of my FT02 and run the whole thing passive biggrin.gif

LOL yeah and ebay aluminum auto radiators are CHEAP compared to pc ones, Maybe find a cheap oem one with plastic tanks froma SMALL car, cap off the hose ends and drill/tap new threads into the plastic for the pc hose? Personally I like my radiators inside the case but that isnt a bad idea. Someone on ocn did a water bucket loop too, one of the 5gallon painters ones and had great results because of the sheer amount of water in the loop. I have considered an empty fish tank but didnt like the idea of my pc not being mobile if I ever needed to move it somewhere else.
2012 nerd box
(19 items)
 
2011 nerd box
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 1100T x6 4244mhz 3065cpu-nb (fx8150 at 4.9g... Asus Crosshair V Formula Asus gtx570 dcII- 890/1780/2200@1088mv corsair dominator gt 8GB 1866 @1886 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
corsair f120ssd/seagate 1TB Asus cd/dvd burner Antec Kuhler 920 semi-custom loop (2 radiators) win7 professional 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Gateway 23" 1920x1080 corsair ax850 Rosewill blackhawk w/hdd bay mod logitech mx518 
  hide details  
Reply
2012 nerd box
(19 items)
 
2011 nerd box
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 1100T x6 4244mhz 3065cpu-nb (fx8150 at 4.9g... Asus Crosshair V Formula Asus gtx570 dcII- 890/1780/2200@1088mv corsair dominator gt 8GB 1866 @1886 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
corsair f120ssd/seagate 1TB Asus cd/dvd burner Antec Kuhler 920 semi-custom loop (2 radiators) win7 professional 64bit 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Gateway 23" 1920x1080 corsair ax850 Rosewill blackhawk w/hdd bay mod logitech mx518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2457 of 4369
^ have fun managing galvanic corrosion and coolants in your loop.
Rig 1
(25 items)
 
Rig 2
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Asus Rampage Extreme X48 XFX AMD 6870 Black Edition 1GB DDR5 Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 996982 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD 320GB Blue OS WD 500GB Green Raid 0 WD 500GB Blue Lite-on DVD RW 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Lite-on DVD RW Aquacomputer AMS 360 D5 copper w/ vertical res ... XSPC Raystorm Copper Watercool Heatkiller NSB 3.0 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill LRT white - 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD DangerDen Perfect Seal 1/2" barbs Swiftech Radbox 3x Scythe GT AP-15's in push 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Samsung P2350 Microsoft x6 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Thermaltake Spedo w/ white LED mod Microsoft x8 Razer Goliathus SupremeFX X-Fi+ I-Trigue L3800 
Other
Lamptron FC-5 v2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-750 Asus Maximus III Formula XFX ATi 5770 Mushkin 996991 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extreme 120GB SSD HD502HI HP Litescribe Corsair H50 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
2x Noiseblocker M12-P in Push/Pull Bitfenix Spectre Pro Red 120mm Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung P2250 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Marauder Thermaltake 850W modular Thermaltake Armor Jr Razer Spectre 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Sphex Serious gaming SupremeFX X-Fi SupremeFX X-Fi Creative FPS1000 
  hide details  
Reply
Rig 1
(25 items)
 
Rig 2
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q9550 Asus Rampage Extreme X48 XFX AMD 6870 Black Edition 1GB DDR5 Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 996982 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD 320GB Blue OS WD 500GB Green Raid 0 WD 500GB Blue Lite-on DVD RW 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Lite-on DVD RW Aquacomputer AMS 360 D5 copper w/ vertical res ... XSPC Raystorm Copper Watercool Heatkiller NSB 3.0 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Primochill LRT white - 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD DangerDen Perfect Seal 1/2" barbs Swiftech Radbox 3x Scythe GT AP-15's in push 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Samsung P2350 Microsoft x6 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Thermaltake Spedo w/ white LED mod Microsoft x8 Razer Goliathus SupremeFX X-Fi+ I-Trigue L3800 
Other
Lamptron FC-5 v2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-750 Asus Maximus III Formula XFX ATi 5770 Mushkin 996991 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extreme 120GB SSD HD502HI HP Litescribe Corsair H50 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
2x Noiseblocker M12-P in Push/Pull Bitfenix Spectre Pro Red 120mm Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung P2250 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Marauder Thermaltake 850W modular Thermaltake Armor Jr Razer Spectre 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Sphex Serious gaming SupremeFX X-Fi SupremeFX X-Fi Creative FPS1000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2458 of 4369
I'll post some results up once I get everything and put it together.
But I just listed my PC up on OCAU as I'm not into overclocking and games so much anymore. If that sells, I might go to Ivy (3570K) with a MVG or Sniper M3. HD4000 is more than enough for what I need. 4x180MM rad for just CPU? HELL YEAH.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 at 4.4GHz Asus Rampage II GENE Asus GTX 660Ti DC II  12GB Kingston HyperX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
Intel 330 Series Samsung 830 Series Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 Nickel Black Yamasaki Catleap Q270 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Ducking Shine 9008B Cherry Brown PC Power and Cooling Silencer 600W MK III Krystal Hellflower Limited Edition Audioengine D1 Premium 
AudioAudio
Shure SRH440 Audioengine A2 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2459 of 4369
Mini Me
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930k ASRock X79 Champion Gigabyte 7950 Gigabyte 7950 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
Gigabyte 7950 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB DDR3 1866 Corsair Neutron GTX 480GB LG BD-RE 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win7 Ultimate Dell U2311H Dell U2713HM Razer blackwindow ultimate 
PowerCaseMouse
Kingwin 1000w Lazer platinum Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
Mini Me
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3930k ASRock X79 Champion Gigabyte 7950 Gigabyte 7950 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveOptical Drive
Gigabyte 7950 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB DDR3 1866 Corsair Neutron GTX 480GB LG BD-RE 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win7 Ultimate Dell U2311H Dell U2713HM Razer blackwindow ultimate 
PowerCaseMouse
Kingwin 1000w Lazer platinum Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra Razer Deathadder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2460 of 4369

i know the rad works. i've seen someone in this thread with that rad in their build. however, i don't know if the fan would work. never seen anyone using that fan in their TJ08-E build. i think it might be too large.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Computer Cases
Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Computer Cases › Silverstone TJ08-E Owners Club.