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i think we are both saying the same thing but from different points of view. reality is we don't ever pull the combined TDP of the components used even under heavy OC due to usage pattern. is it possible to pull more then TDP? yes. OC + synthetic load. but you also pointed out the fact that nobody uses furmark continuously on a daily basis smile.gif the most people ever draw is 350w during game load. and that's considering you are talking about the notorious power hog that is the 580. 6xx or the 79xx chips with 28nm tech runs cooler from an architectural point of view. can you OC it to a point to make it run hot? sure push anything far enough it'll run hot. but the fact is on a stable build, you are not likely to see greater then combined TDP of the components used. TDP is not the most accurate measurement for power draw. but on average it's a good measuring stick to remind people just how little power we actually use. (and how there is almost no reason to buy a 1kw+ PSU due to ATX specification limitations tongue.gif )

Yes. I think we are tongue.gif. Let's agree to agree on each others statements. Haha. =D
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post #2452 of 7170
Looks like I've gone ahead and gotten a MO-RA3 4x180MM instead.
Got a bundle deal over at OCAU inc 4 G-Silent Slim White Fans and the rad stands.

Also got a EK supreme HF Acetal instead of a heatkiller 3.0 which saved me about $60 odd.
Awaiting all parts then I can start stripping down my PC. thumb.gif
    
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post #2453 of 7170
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Originally Posted by Borarah View Post

Looks like I've gone ahead and gotten a MO-RA3 4x180MM instead.
Got a bundle deal over at OCAU inc 4 G-Silent Slim White Fans and the rad stands.
Also got a EK supreme HF Acetal instead of a heatkiller 3.0 which saved me about $60 odd.
Awaiting all parts then I can start stripping down my PC. thumb.gif

would be interesting to see what kind of temps you get running that rig fanless smile.gif 4x180mm is a BIG rad and it might have enough surface area to do just that smile.gif

also as a reminder to get some of those silverstone 180mm fan filters for those fans.
Edited by psyclum - 8/5/12 at 9:33pm
post #2454 of 7170
Once I get everything together. I'll try passive then compare the performance with the fans attached. Don't think I'd need fan filters, don't see a point in it. I don't even know how many FPI the RAD has. By eye, it looks like 7.2FPI.
    
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post #2455 of 7170
FPI matters less the larger rad you go with. your heat load is constant (less then 400w for anything you can actually fit inside the TJ08-E) so the larger rad you can use, the overall mass and surface area to dissipate that heat also increases. the sheer amount of copper / aluminum / and circulating water all contribute to the heat capacity as well as dissipation. unless you are folding 24/7. the heat capacity of your overall system will do quite abit of "cooling" already. (takes alot of heat simply to heat up the water you have circulating as well as the rest of the mass associated with your cooling system regardless if you are actually dissipating any heat at all) it's like if you hook up your liquid cooling system to a swimming pool. it needs no heat dissipation because it's impossible for your computer to generate enough heat to heat up the pool even 1C regardless how hard you OC your system biggrin.gif

anyway. will be looking forward to seeing your results. it's something i'd like to try if i ever decide to go liquid. i'd just bolt a small car radiator on the side of my FT02 and run the whole thing passive biggrin.gif
post #2456 of 7170
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FPI matters less the larger rad you go with. your heat load is constant (less then 400w for anything you can actually fit inside the TJ08-E) so the larger rad you can use, the overall mass and surface area to dissipate that heat also increases. the sheer amount of copper / aluminum / and circulating water all contribute to the heat capacity as well as dissipation. unless you are folding 24/7. the heat capacity of your overall system will do quite abit of "cooling" already. (takes alot of heat simply to heat up the water you have circulating as well as the rest of the mass associated with your cooling system regardless if you are actually dissipating any heat at all) it's like if you hook up your liquid cooling system to a swimming pool. it needs no heat dissipation because it's impossible for your computer to generate enough heat to heat up the pool even 1C regardless how hard you OC your system biggrin.gif
anyway. will be looking forward to seeing your results. it's something i'd like to try if i ever decide to go liquid.
i'd just bolt a small car radiator on the side of my FT02 and run the whole thing passive biggrin.gif

LOL yeah and ebay aluminum auto radiators are CHEAP compared to pc ones, Maybe find a cheap oem one with plastic tanks froma SMALL car, cap off the hose ends and drill/tap new threads into the plastic for the pc hose? Personally I like my radiators inside the case but that isnt a bad idea. Someone on ocn did a water bucket loop too, one of the 5gallon painters ones and had great results because of the sheer amount of water in the loop. I have considered an empty fish tank but didnt like the idea of my pc not being mobile if I ever needed to move it somewhere else.
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^ have fun managing galvanic corrosion and coolants in your loop.
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I'll post some results up once I get everything and put it together.
But I just listed my PC up on OCAU as I'm not into overclocking and games so much anymore. If that sells, I might go to Ivy (3570K) with a MVG or Sniper M3. HD4000 is more than enough for what I need. 4x180MM rad for just CPU? HELL YEAH.
    
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i know the rad works. i've seen someone in this thread with that rad in their build. however, i don't know if the fan would work. never seen anyone using that fan in their TJ08-E build. i think it might be too large.
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