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Oh yes Dragonheart is right, no place to move my ST. I'm still doing math trying to justify a move to SG08 and say goodbye to my soundcard. If my A/C is off I can't play games like BF3 due to temp problems.

you have temp problem in a TJ08-E? your build looks clean and you shouldn't have any temp problems... what kind of temps are you getting?
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Oh yes Dragonheart is right, no place to move my ST. I'm still doing math trying to justify a move to SG08 and say goodbye to my soundcard. If my A/C is off I can't play games like BF3 due to temp problems.

?? Temp problems? I ran a triple slot GTX 580 DCUII with an Asus Xonar ST right up against it in there for a good while. I had no issues. What temp problems do you have?

PS: We have the same headphones. SCORE. I mean. SHURE Hahah tongue.gif.
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Hey all,

Would the TJ08-E make a decent 1st time builder case? My 16yo son has been asking for a computer to replace our 2004 vintage Compaq Presario SR1230nx desktop (don't know why?, it still runs fine .... well, Chrome and Hitman2 anyway....sort of... lol). Ok, so maybe I want a new one too. Im the tinkerer, but he's just interested in gaming. I figured as a way to get him to learn something about computers, I'd ok a new computer if he helped build it. Of course, here I am doing all the leg work!

I've been following the forums here for the last few months, and feel like I've done enough research to have a pretty good idea of the basics, but thought I'd run my build past the experience on here for any tips, ect:


Approximate Purchase Date: Like to have built by Oct 9th, 2012: (release date for Dishonored)

Budget Range: ~$1300 (not including monitor, keyboard, mouse)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games/movies/browsing

Are you buying a monitor: Already preordered an Overlord Temptest 270oc (which is same as overclockable 27" catleap 1440p)..see this link:


Do you need to buy OS: NO

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon (I guess Newegg does not do free shipping to Alaska )

Location: Fairbanks, AK.

Parts Preferences: None.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 2560-by-1440 - would like to overclock monitor to 100hz+.

Additional Comments: Looking for unassuming, quiet(er) build. Doesn't have to be tiny, but don't want a spaceship either. Like the looks & size of the Silverstone TJ08-e, but willing to go a bit bigger if needed.

Here's my cart in Amazon:
Crucial 128 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT128M4SSD2 - Crucial Technology
$102.55

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply - CMPSU-750TXV2 - Corsair
$104.99

Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black) - Asus
$23.20

Asus MAXIMUS V GENE Z77 mATX DDR3 Intel LGA 1155 Motherboard - Asus
$209.00

Silverstone Tek Micro-ATX Mini-DTX, Mini-ITX Mid Tower Computer Case with Aluminum Front Panel and Steel Body TJ08B-E - Black - Silverstone Tek
$99.99

Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX - Western Digital
$98.03

Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K - Intel
$219.99


PNY XLR8 8 GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3-12800) 240-Pin CAS CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit SDRAM (MD8192KD3-1600-X9) - PNY
$39.99


PNY GeForce GTX 670 Graphics Card VCGGTX670XPB - PNY
$410.99

TOTAL: $1308.73

Thanks for any help/suggestions!
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Can't decide which cooler to buy for the TJ08-E,

Noctua NH-U12P SE2
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=31&lng=en

or

Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1444&ID=2116

It will be cooling a 3770k, any opinions?
post #2745 of 7181
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Can't decide which cooler to buy for the TJ08-E,
Noctua NH-U12P SE2
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=31&lng=en
or
Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1444&ID=2116
It will be cooling a 3770k, any opinions?

you have something against the NH-D14? biggrin.gif
post #2746 of 7181
If my Air conditioner is OFF, plus my city's weather (easily 40 c) yeah it gets too hot for my taste. But that's only if a/c is off, of course is not a problem otherwise biggrin.gif
Edited by NorCa - 9/25/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by smokingtundra View Post

Hey all,
Would the TJ08-E make a decent 1st time builder case? My 16yo son has been asking for a computer to replace our 2004 vintage Compaq Presario SR1230nx desktop (don't know why?, it still runs fine .... well, Chrome and Hitman2 anyway....sort of... lol).

I think it's a great case for a build. My tj08 was built for my gaming son. My personal suggestions

Add a CPU water cooler. This makes airflow so much cleaner and much more space. I like the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer better than the Antec Kuhlers because the fans are PMW in Thermaltake

Upgrade the CPU to a 3770k, $290 at Microcenter in-store, Buy.com had it available at same price earlier today, so you might be able to find a similar deal.

Also, I like the Nvidia 580 over the 670, but that is my preference. Given a choice, I like the MSI Frozer III or IV lightning cards over a PNY "generic"

Also, you should be able to get a Seagate Baracuda 2 TB, 7200rpm Sata 3 for $100 if you look around.

The only sound I ever hear is when the Nvidia 580 starts heating up for really extreme game play or video rendering.

Good Luck!
post #2748 of 7181
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Originally Posted by NorCa View Post

If my Air conditioner is OFF, plus my city's weather (easily 40 c) yeah it gets too hot for my taste. But that's only if a/c is off, of course is not a problem otherwise biggrin.gif

still tho. what kind of temps are you talking about?.. not enough to prevent you from playing any games i would hope. do remember ivybridge is a hotter running chip, so you cant take standards you use for sandybridge temps and compare to an ivybridge. on average ivybridge will run maybe 10C hotter then sandybridge, maybe alittle more and that is normal. even intel says it's normal and nowhere near harmful for the chip design...
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I think it's a great case for a build. My tj08 was built for my gaming son. My personal suggestions
Add a CPU water cooler. This makes airflow so much cleaner and much more space. I like the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer better than the Antec Kuhlers because the fans are PMW in Thermaltake
Upgrade the CPU to a 3770k, $290 at Microcenter in-store, Buy.com had it available at same price earlier today, so you might be able to find a similar deal.
Also, I like the Nvidia 580 over the 670, but that is my preference. Given a choice, I like the MSI Frozer III or IV lightning cards over a PNY "generic"
Also, you should be able to get a Seagate Baracuda 2 TB, 7200rpm Sata 3 for $100 if you look around.
The only sound I ever hear is when the Nvidia 580 starts heating up for really extreme game play or video rendering.
Good Luck!

the 580 is a really hot running card (loud too) so i think he'd be better off with the 670. the 670 is built on the 28nm tech so it's simply a much better chip in the 1st place. as for storage, i've already mentioned in his other thread that he should reconsider how much room he actually need. if he doesn't actually need that much storage, then just ditch the HDD and change to a larger SSD for everything. (he wouldn't want to store too much porn on a machine he shares with his kid anyway so a 256gig SSD is more then plenty biggrin.gif )
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the 580 is a really hot running card (loud too) so i think he'd be better off with the 670. the 670 is built on the 28nm tech so it's simply a much better chip in the 1st place.

I did said it was my preference.

No question that the 600 series run much cooler, but effective performance for gaming might be better with a 580 (depends on games I suspect). Yes, the 580 runs hot (when extreme gaming), but not for regular gaming or other PC activities (Facebook, email, youtube videos etc). But if one is looking for lower power bills or less heating (too much heat is probably never an issue in Alaska wink.gif ) of the room, then a 600 series is definitely the way to go (unless you want to go to the AMD way for the GPU. Even less power, but more software issues in my book).

And the MSI 580 Frozer III Lightning, which I use (well actually my son) has really good cooling, and relatively quiet fans. As I said, with all the gaming video options maxed out, I still seldom hear the 580 video card with the extreme games.

But with a 3770k, a couple of drives and a single GPU card like the 580, at least the 750 Watt PS has plenty of head room. With Overclocking CPU and GPU, I don't think any power supply in the 600 watt plus range will run into any issues on that front.
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as for storage, i've already mentioned in his other thread that he should reconsider how much room he actually need. if he doesn't actually need that much storage, then just ditch the HDD and change to a larger SSD for everything. (he wouldn't want to store too much porn on a machine he shares with his kid anyway so a 256gig SSD is more then plenty biggrin.gif )

Well, that would have been my initial thought, but between the 10 GB games, every mod, every modding patch kit, etc., that 1 TB drive gets filled up faster than one realizes. I'm sure they have Staples up in Fairbanks, which is where I got my last 2 TB drive. If they won't ship it for free to Fairbanks, I'm positive they will ship to a local store there for free for local pickup.
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