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Hmm, that's something to think about. Thanks.
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Can attach the ssds to the back of the mobo tray and get an adapter for the 1tb in the 5.25 bay


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That looks great. I see me buying a Ssd in the far future.biggrin.gif
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Just ordered mine, will be here on Tuesday. I had to go with an H80 instead of a custom loop but I'm happy. Now begins the waiting game. Thanks guys.
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Case arrived yesterday. Still waiting on motherboard and SDRAM so won't start assembly until next week. Here are some first impressions:

Packaging
  1. Nicely protected in shipping carton with rigid foam end caps. Not much chance for damage during shipping unless there is some kind of side puncture. That could impact the case sides. Mine was from Amazon and the actual case carton was inside a generic brown carton so that should add some add additional protection.
  2. Plastic cover surrounding case with separate parts and manual. LOTS of screws.

Finish and fit
  1. Really nice finish. Will be a fingerprint magnet I think.
  2. Everything inside and out is matte black with the exception of the expansion slot covers which are silver in color. Even the pre-installed (riveted?) motherboard standoffs are black. Seven standoffs pre-installed with two empty holes for either micro ATX or mini-ITX boards. Stand-off screws (2) are included in screw pack. Strangely, they are silver in color, not black.
  3. Fit appears to be good with front, top and side covers well aligned. Inside of case doesn't appear to have any sharp edges at all. Front cover slots for 5.25 bays, 3.5 bay and external audio/USB 3.0 inputs are just a little large, in my opinion, with very visible gaps.

Working with case
  1. AS has been stated here before, because of the compact size of this case, you'll really want to spend some time thinking out your install. Wiring for front panel inputs and system panel connectors appear to be sufficiently long and well routed to rear of case. I will probably have to get an extension for the front panel HD audio connector because my ASRock Pro4-M MB has (stupidly!) placed that header under the PCI Express 3.0 slot at the rear.of the board.
  2. Side covers come off very easily. Top cover has 6 screws, 2 at the rear and 4 towards the front of the case. These four are quite small and care must be taken when screwing them back in as they would be easy to cross thread. They attach to very thin metal supports. Advise not fully tightening any one of these until all 4 are started and then carefully tightening these in a X pattern.
  3. Now comes the fun part! The front cover is attached with 6 EXTREMELY small screws. I mean EXTREMELY small. These would be SO easy to lose. They are located along the front inside rails of the case and are not easy to access with a standard Phillips head (very small bit) screwdriver. Highly recommend getting an Allen head wrench style tool with a Phillips head bit on the short end. It will make your life a lot easier. Getting the screws out is one thing but getting them back in is a nightmare. You'll need long handle tweezers (to place the screws in the holes),lots of light and a LOT of patience. Be careful tightening them to avoid cross threading. Same sort of X pattern as top cover is recommended.
  4. I removed the front cover to rotate the 180mm fan 180 degrees to hide the wires and to have the fan power connector closer to where I want to put it on the MB. Took me about an hour start to finish but I went VERY slowly to avoid losing the screws or cross threading the holes. Granted I am not the most mechanically adept person but it still shouldn't have been that hard. Did I mention that the front cover screws are EXTREMELY small? I truly hope I don't have to remove the front cover ever again!

Final thoughts
  1. Overall I am very pleased with the quality of this case.
  2. Cable management will be very easy with this case. Truly well thought out.
  3. Will be tight working inside but knew this going in.
  4. Having lots of patience and lots of light absolutely necessary when removing and replacing covers (especially the front). Don't rush, you'll be sorry.
  5. Be careful with screwdrivers and tools. Case is painted, not anodized. Would be easy to scratch if not careful.

Looking forward to finishing my build and will report back afterwards about installing components and temperatures.

System - all new except for the PSU:
Silverstone Temjin TJ08B-E micro ATX case
ASRock Z77 Pro4-M micro ATX MB
Intel i5 3570K CPU
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WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM 64MB cache 500GB SATA 3 HDD
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Corsair VX550W PSU - bought a couple of years ago but have never used. Plenty of power for my needs.
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Might add a discrete GPU card later but plan on using the i5 3570K's built-in Intel HD 4000 graphics for now.
Edited by Hicountryrider - 10/6/12 at 4:02pm
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Hicountryrider-

Yeah dude its a great case. I love mine, I have been wanting to upgrade something on my pc and the case being an affordable swap/upgrade I started looking for a new case but I cant find ANYTHING I would want to use instead of the tj08-e. Its size is so efficient there is nothing in the matx range that I think can come close to this case. There are nice atx cases but I want to stick to a smaller case and so far cant find anything that can match the tj08-e, especially in cooling as far as radiators are concerned. Being able to have a 180mm radiator up front is great for my cpu only loop.
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Hicountryrider - That's good to know. I also ordered from amazon with prime, should be here soon.
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It appears that the folks at ASRock deemed it unnecessary to include motherboard mounting screws (not the standoffs but the screws to attach the MB to the standoffs) in the box for the ASRock Z77Pro4-M MB. Actually appears as though no mounting hardware whatsoever comes with this MB.

I'm hoping that the bag of screws that come with the TJ08B-E case has the 8 screws I would need to be able to mount the MB. There are a ton of screws in the bag but I'm not sure which ones could be used for this purpose. I can identify the 2 MB standoff screws included and there are obviously screws for mounting HDDs.

Anyone out there able to help me with this issue?

Must be having a senior moment!mad.gif Just remembered that motherboard screws do come with the case, not the motherboard. I'll figure out which one's they are.

Another question I have is that by rotating the 180mm front fan 180 degrees the arrow on the side of the fan is now pointing down instead of up as it was originally. I can't imagine that this would make any difference (the flow direction arrow still points in) but can anyone confirm this for me?

TIA for replies.
Edited by Hicountryrider - 10/6/12 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by Hicountryrider View Post

Must be having a senior moment!mad.gif Just remembered that motherboard screws do come with the case, not the motherboard. I'll figure out which one's they are.
Another question I have is that by rotating the 180mm front fan 180 degrees the arrow on the side of the fan is now pointing down instead of up as it was originally. I can't imagine that this would make any difference (the flow direction arrow still points in) but can anyone confirm this for me?
TIA for replies.

Confirmed. In a circular motion, one side will be going up, the other will be going down.
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Must be having a senior moment!mad.gif Just remembered that motherboard screws do come with the case, not the motherboard. I'll figure out which one's they are.
Another question I have is that by rotating the 180mm front fan 180 degrees the arrow on the side of the fan is now pointing down instead of up as it was originally. I can't imagine that this would make any difference (the flow direction arrow still points in) but can anyone confirm this for me?
TIA for replies.

Confirmed. In a circular motion, one side will be going up, the other will be going down.
Sorry, but not sure that I understand your post. I was questioning whether it made any difference at all in performance or potential damage to the fan that I rotated it 180 degrees from it's original position as shipped. I'm assuming the arrow that pointed up (before I rotated the fan) just indicates the rotation direction, is that correct? As stated in my post I didn't change the direction of the air flow, I just rotated the fan on it's axis to change where the wiring was. I hope that is clear.

Obviously Silverstone installed the fan as it was for a reason. Am I potentially creating a cooling or some other problem by changing that? It doesn't make sense to me that it would but that's why I'm asking.
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