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post #3481 of 7172
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Originally Posted by Qrash View Post

Nope, I don't hear a whine at start up. My Maximus V GENE is managing the speed (Standard profile) so it does not get up to full speed at start-up. Is your motherboard managing the fan speed?

I don't believe it is outside of my h60.
post #3482 of 7172
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Originally Posted by MarvinDessica View Post

Hey does anyone know why on earth the front fan has a terrible whiny pitch when it starts? It only last for about 10 seconds then once the fan starts moving it doesn't anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

I actually started noticing this whiny pitch as well recently after installing new AISuite II and then playing with Fan Xpert 2 feature. The fan starts doing this whiny pitch from time to time and does it every time before shutting down. Dunno if I should be bothered with this but it definately hasn't been doing this before...

And yeh, it's definately the front fan.
post #3483 of 7172
Interesting. I have not installed the AI Suite or even Fan Xpert2 on its own and I do not hear the whine. I'm just using the BIOS defaults (Fan Speed Control = enabled, profile = Standard). Can Fan Xpert or some other aspect of AI Suite really be the cause of this whine?.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K Asus Maximus GENE V Asus GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 Mushkin 16GB Dual Channel Kit Frostbyte 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB (WD2002FAEX) Panasonic UJ-265 Corsair H80i 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition (x2) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Dell UltraSharp 2410 Logitech K740 Illuminated Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 Platinum SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E Logitech Performance Mouse MX Creative X-Fi Titanium HD 
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SilverStone FP58 Bitfenix SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Card Reader 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K Asus Maximus GENE V Asus GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5 Mushkin 16GB Dual Channel Kit Frostbyte 
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Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB (WD2002FAEX) Panasonic UJ-265 Corsair H80i 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition (x2) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Dell UltraSharp 2410 Logitech K740 Illuminated Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 Platinum SilverStone Temjin TJ08-E Logitech Performance Mouse MX Creative X-Fi Titanium HD 
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post #3484 of 7172
The fan whines if the power is reduced to just above stall speed. With the switch on high, this is somewhere around 20% as I recall, and on low 61%. If you're using fan control software, just turn the speeds up slightly and it should stop. If you aren't, your BIOS is probably controlling the fans, check your settings there.
post #3485 of 7172
Regardless of how the manual states to orientate the power supply fan, it may also depend on what make/model PSU you have. As my TJ08-e has a Seasonic X series in which the fan does not spin under 20 C and, has never come on yet, it would make no sense to have the PSU fan face downwards because it would seldom operate, if at all, to cool the GPU. Consequently, all that would be achieved would be to permit hot air to flow through the PSU instead of cool ambient from the top grill. I put this to Silverstone in Taiwan and they advised that their manual was wrong, that the fan should face the top and they would correct the manual. It will be interesting to see when this revision happens. Their reply:
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Dear Mr. John:

Thank you very much for purchasing SilverStone.

We’re sorry that TJ08-E’s manual was wrong, please install your Seasonic X660 with its fan facing top.

Thank you for remind us about this, we will correct this mistake immediately.

Best Regards,

Albert Chang
SilverStone Technology Co., Ltd.

Email : support@silverstonetek.com.tw

Re. Whine
post #3486 of 7172
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Originally Posted by XSCounter View Post

I actually started noticing this whiny pitch as well recently after installing new AISuite II and then playing with Fan Xpert 2 feature. The fan starts doing this whiny pitch from time to time and does it every time before shutting down. Dunno if I should be bothered with this but it definately hasn't been doing this before...

And yeh, it's definately the front fan.

I have Fan Expert+ - ie only Expert+ and not Expert2 - it does not cause any noise with the front or any fan. The front fan is very quiet and does not whine at any speed.

You may be aware of this already and perhaps you have already done this: It can be speed tested throughout it's RPM range in fan Expert - Go into Fan Expert > tools > Fan Name > Select which fan number the front fan is connected to - usually Fan2 on Asus M.Board. Fan1 is for the rear fan > Click test. The fan should RPM speed test from the lowest RPM speed to maximum.

You are probably also aware that these standard front fans are a simple sleeve bearing. While usually quiet, they can develop a whine if the bearing becomes dry. My previous PC had quite a loud intermittent whine from the [also sleeve bearing] rear fan. I merely removed it and put a TINY drop of oil down the bearing spindle and the fan was quiet thereafter -still quiet a year later . There is really nothing else in a sleeve bearing fan to make a noise other than the [sleeve] bearing becoming dry, which is easily remedied. A little different with a PWM fan - which apart from the type of bearing design and material, some may make a slight clicking noise as the power is 'pulsed' to to the motor.
post #3487 of 7172
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Originally Posted by mjl4878 View Post

How much better is this than the current front fan?


At 15-20db. It seems to be quieter at the low speed and a lot quieter at the high speed of 1200 RPM.
post #3488 of 7172
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Originally Posted by ANDMYGUN View Post

Speaking of front fans, Mine runs pretty loud, whats a good speed to run that's makes its barely noticeable? I'll be changing the setting in my bios.

Just do a test of it in Fan Expert - An auto test from lowest to highest speed and compare the RPM percentage of the test figure to the RPM test range and you should be able to determine a suitable speed /noise level that you are happy with. Mine is reasonable and just starts to get a little louder from 775 RPM > so I set it around 750. set at 750 or 800 did not seem to make much difference temperature wise.
post #3489 of 7172
Hey guys!

Some progress in my update. Here is a sneak-peak into some prep work that I have done for when I start my upgrades smile.gif



Various photos coming later this afternoon.
post #3490 of 7172
Can I join the club ?

MB: ASUS P8Z77-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz
RAM: SAMSUNG 16GB 1600Mhz
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i
Storage: WD Blue 1TB
Case: SilverStone Temjin Series TJ08B-E
Optical Drive: ASUS Black Blu-ray Burner
VGA: not yet
PSU: Corsair AX850 Gold
SSD: Samsung 840 pro 128GB





I ordered this part but it seems useless, cause there is no enough room for cables


Any suggest for better cable management ?
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