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Originally Posted by Seredin View Post

What's going on at the inlet of your CPU block? Are there two fittings there?

Otherwise, lookin good thumb.gif

I can see a 45* and a triple rotary also a monsoon , Can you use the monsoon and the triple rotary only? thumb.gif
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My system update now with Silverstone Sleeved extensions and a mid plate with a little cable routing hole

The surface space on that rad is surprisingly small.

Very clean though!
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post #3743 of 7158
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Originally Posted by ANDMYGUN View Post

The surface space on that rad is surprisingly small.

Very clean though!
Its a 120mm by 25mm thick rad and my CPU doesn't go above 50 under load plus it was a good deal for $20 brand new from newegg
post #3744 of 7158
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Originally Posted by Acapella75 View Post

The manual says if you have gpus that exhaust into the case to mount the fan upside down because the psu draws some of the hot air out of the case like that.
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Originally Posted by Acapella75 View Post

The manual says if you have gpus that exhaust into the case to mount the fan upside down because the psu draws some of the hot air out of the case like that.

Hi Arcapella75

Re. PSU fan orientation. The Manual is actually wrong. I discussed this with Silverstone Taiwan and they advised that the manual is incorrect and that they are going to change it to state that the fan should face the top.
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Originally Posted by Qrash View Post

Somewhere in the last 1000 posts, a forum member contacted Silverstone and they stated that the manual instruction for PS orientation is wrong. Silverstone said that they would update the online PDF of the user manual, but that has not happened yet. So, install the PS with the fan up.

Hi Qrash

It may have been my post that you were referring to. I was wondering when they would get around to changing the manual. I might follow up with them and ask for a copy of the reprint.

The following is a copy of Silverstones reply:
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Dear Mr. John


Thank you very much for purchasing SilverStone.

We’re sorry that TJ08-E’s manual was wrong, please install your Seasonic X660 with its fan facing top.

Thank you for remind us about this, we will correct this mistake immediately.



Best Regards,

Albert Chang
SilverStone Technology Co., Ltd.



Email : support@silverstonetek.com.tw

From: John King [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:04 AM
To: Technical Support
Subject: Technical Support-TJ08B-e assembly



Thank you very much for purchasing SilverStone.
post #3746 of 7158
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Originally Posted by Seredin View Post

What's going on at the inlet of your CPU block? Are there two fittings there?

Otherwise, lookin good thumb.gif

It's actually 2 x 60 degree bitspower fittings that allow the tubing to go in with putting stress in it, causing a kink. It does look odd on that photo, I'll have to take another photo to show how it's working.
post #3747 of 7158
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Originally Posted by fullderp View Post

Well I've now built my TJ08-E - got an Asus P8Z77 Pro-M in there, 8gb ram, i7 2600k, Noctua NH-U12P SE2 cooler (2 fans) an extra Noctua exhaust fan at the back and an HIS 1gb ATI 5850, Power supply is a Silverstone Strider Plus ST75F-P. Pioneer BDR-206 optical drive and a Samsung 840 Pro

Cables are long on the Silverstone supply so cable routing was.... quite difficult. It wasn't impossible but it's definitely a squeeze up top - people aren't joking around when they say that, L shaped SATA cables are basically a must.

What surprises me the most about the case is the thin metal and the ease of scratching it. I've been careful and managed to avoid external scratches - but internal where screws go into drive bays, almost impossible not to. The rear motherboard port cover / bracket is an oddly tight squeeze and ever so partially bends the shape - fortunately it's not too bad at all - just a minor thing

I'd be happy to have paid 20$ more for the following
Noise padding internally on both doors.
Second coat / protective coat of paint
Quick release expansion card slot system (instead of regular screws AND a housing over the top)
Maybe some better cable routing holders / clips / rails in a few spots.
The metal on the clips for the drive bays feels flimsy, I don't need a rail system (I do like them) but something a bit more solid would be good.
A couple of these might have worked above the expansion slot brackets http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/upload/image/pc-a70f/a70f-08.jpg
I'd love about 2mm more space above the PSU to 'shove cables' basically but I got by without it.

The case itself isn't loud by any means but moving from a P183 to this puppy, you can see the P183 really was very well designed audio wise. Just a few simple changes might have made this a dash quieter. I can't believe I'm saying this, because I hate doors - but with foam noise padding on the walls and possibly a door / vent system like the P183 - it might have got even quieter.

Overall, I'm quite happy with it, I got my moneys worth but I kind of expected a mind blowing case smile.gif - I guess it's reasonable for 99$ - but I can see where my 200$ went on the P183.
Would recommend to others but they need to be prepared for a long build time if they want clean cable routing. - This sucker just .5" or 1.5cm longer and 1cm taller could make a hell of a difference

Hi fullderp

A few comments on some of your concerns...
My experiences...
I also shared your concern re. the metal gauge. I reviewed numerous cases before choosing the TJ08-e and eliminated most with steel under 0.7mm. Unfortunately, nowhere could I find the steel thickness. After ordering it, was initially skeptical - If they want to use 0.5mmn steel, 'High Tensile' would not go amiss, especially on the Motherboard tray where some formed channels would also strengthen it. Agreed, it is not perfect, but if careful, it can do the job almost perfectly. When the build is completed and the case in situ, most seems forgiven and it runs cool. Would I order one again ? Yes, because it is unique and currently there is nothing similar. I had one problem with the steel, after removing the top, one of the 3mm Countersunk screw holes was ill formed and stripped on refitting. They holes are obviously 'Punched' and then threaded. After considering repair options, used a small, 'Speed Clip' over the flange. I pressed the flange with speed clip in slightly so that the top panel did not protrude further. Amazingly, the original C/S 3mm screw managed to go through the stripped thread and still grip/ tighten into the speed clip behind. I suspect that the thin metal will dissipate heat better than thicker and any foam padding may deter heat dissipation. Foam padding may not eliminate noise in this case because if the front fan [Fan2] is disabled in Fan Expert + Tools/Fan Name/Setting/User, the case is almost whisper quiet - even with the CPU and rear fan running around 900 RPM. If elimination of noise is the objective, I doubt padding the interior may achieve the desired result - because most fan noise is no doubt audible via the front grill. Seasonic X modular cables seem to be good in this case. The only cable reservation is the stiff USB 3.0 and it's close proximity to the 24 pin MB plug on that MB. Rather than bend the USB 3.0 cable to clear the 24 pin plug, I routed/clipped it along the top of the HD cage, bent over the end, and down onto the USB 3.0 MB Port. I wanted to place it on a shelf under a desk so another ten mm, for me, may have ruled it out. Once in place, the switches and USB 3.0 ports are perfectly placed. Finally, a door?- Horrors....
post #3748 of 7158
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

actually IMO, AP181 should have came with either a knob style fan controller(like the AP182 does) or a 3 way switch (500, 850, 1200 RPM) for those who are seeking silence, 500RPM would be an acceptable level of noise IMO. the acoustic signature between 700RPM and 850RPM is roughly the same for normal gaming noise level. the 1200RPM is loud but offer performance level for OCing/benching purposes.

also, after listening to the AP181's extensively in my FT02, I feel the bearing on the motor is actually contributing a great deal of noise to the AP181. the grill contributes noise, but at much higher RPM's. in lower RPM range (500RPM to about 800RPM) the bearing is as much to blame for the noise as anything else on the fan. it's not until you reach the 900RPM range that the wind noise is significantly higher then the motor/bearing noise. it feels as if the bearings for the fan was not designed to be pushing air upwards (most fans are not designed to push air upwards if you look at the cutaway view of the bearing design) i've also noticed excessive heat generated from the motor of the AP181 which i can only assume is from the friction of the fan axle rubbing against the C clip that is holding it in place when the fan is pushing air upwards.

IMO the AP1x1 fans can be MUCH quieter and perform better if Silvestone can redesign the bearing that optimize for pushing air upwards.

The AP181 has a sleeve bearing the simplest form of bearing which until worn or dry should be virtually silent. Sleeve bearings can make a whining sound from the Phosphor Bronze bearing, perhaps even a high pitched whistle if the bearing becomes dry. It is often easy to remove the fan and put a tiny drop of thin oil on the shaft to run down into the bearing. eg. From a screaming whine from a PSU fan to silence.
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snowflake's 1st lan party was a success! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sweet! Nice rig too. I painted a V6 cooler green for a buddy's build. thumb.gif
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My system update now with Silverstone Sleeved extensions and a mid plate with a little cable routing hole
Super clean man. That 650 looks good in there. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by SeriousBlack View Post

Well I am currently in the re-build process and have got it to the stage where I am ready to attach all the cables. I'm quite pleased with how it is looking at the moment. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I would clean up that tube coming from your front rad to the cpu, other than that, looks really good.
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Small update to my system. Added some Bitfenix extensions...snazzy! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
LL
Looks really clean! Nice pic too. thumb.gif
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After reading the last 100 pages, I decided to post my first message in this awesome topic.

It has been 4 months that I own this great mATX case and I am very satisfied.
I just discovered this topic when searching new ideas for cable management and also a better place for the HDD.

I am shamed to post the pictures of my build, because I am not doing any overclocking with great watercooling and bright red wiring. (Sure, I would love to!!)
I have a very basic configuration for my needs.
I really hope you don't mind me, arriving on this topic with my questions.

As you can see below, very basic components:
GA-B75M-D3H
Core i3-3225, using HD4000 on dual screens
8GB Corsair DDR3
SSD Sandisk Extreme 120GB
HDD 1TB 7200rpm
Be Quiet E9 Straight Power 400W
OSX (yes, it's a hackintosh)

The goal was to have a working hackintosh, as quiet as possible in mATX format.

It's an empty rig, unlike yours, but it stays at very low temperatures. biggrin.gif




I'm still with the stock CPU fan (no noise on a i3). No GPU.


Now my questions:

I have seen so many good cable management and ideas that I will try to reproduce in mine.
I plan to move the SSD on the back side, or another side. (and remove this power cable lying on the bottom)
I also plan to remove the HDD cage and place the HDD to the top, in the 5.25" positions.
The only thing I can hear is the spinning HDD and some vibrations.
I would like to take the opportunity to suppress the vibrations.

Do you think this is good solution


Or this


Would it really help for the vibrations?

Thanks a lot !
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