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you should be fine. the msata / mini pcie slot's height isn't greater than the standard motherboard I/O panel width right? therefore it shouldn't interfere with a rear fan mounted to the case?

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Originally Posted by Qrash View Post

Actually, it's quite a bit taller than the I/O panel connectors:



The daughtercard's PCB is 45 mm tall, but the plastic bracket sticks up a further 2 mm ( maybe a bit less), for a total of 47 mm. I've never plugged mine in so I don't know if the PCB makes contact with the motherboard or is a bit above it when it is attached via the multi-pin connector. I expect it sits flush on the motherboard for stability.

This is exactly what I would like to know. I have a push pull with a swiftech 120mm radiator in the rear. I wonder if this mpcie will fit... hmmmm
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oops... my bad. didn't think that reply through properly!

the back of the case looks like this:



and with the orientation of the motherboard, the mPCIE will be at the bottom.

height of the daughtercard wise, it looks like there will definitely be problems - however, the real issue is what the offset is of the daughtercard (and plastic bracket) from the bottom edge of the motherboard when installed in the case. perhaps you might be able to sneak it in underneath the radiator but it looks very iffy... my gut feel says no.

can you get that measurement Qrash?
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I wish this case came with a window or a company existed that makes custom windows. Mnpctech only have windows for the 600t and cosmos 2 frown.gif
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I wish this case came with a window or a company existed that makes custom windows. Mnpctech only have windows for the 600t and cosmos 2 frown.gif

Performance PC's will let you order one with a window and FrozenCPU will make one for you too if you buy the whole case from them and ask for it specifically. I don't know of a group that sells the side panel w/ window separately, as I doubt they have a supply of side panels, so they would have to take it off of new cases (which is obviously not cost effective). Basically, if you want a windowed side panel, you need to get it when you order the case, or talk me into selling mine since UPS destroyed the case it belonged to (though I may rebuild a new TJ08... love this case too much)
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It's only a minor problem really and most people would be satisfied with a simple repair like that but I feel it's a design flaw as those threads really ought to be more substantial in the first place. I am sure that if I remove and replace to top cover a couple more times then I am going to need to either get some spire nuts or hexagon nuts that fit which really lets the case down in my opinion. One problem with spire nuts is that they are made from a very hard metal alloy which is harder than the material the screws are made from and have a different thread pitch so each time you put the screw in and take it out it will damage the thread, this will mean you will have to replace the screws in time too.

It's not a deal breaker and I wouldn't choose a different case just over this issue but it would be nice if Silverstone had put a little more thought into this minor flaw. Thicker metal in that area would help a lot but captive nuts would be perfect and not expensive. I wish Silverstone would offer an updated top cover, maybe as an exchange item (return your old one with damaged threads for reduced price), I would definitely get one and it would also show that Silverstone respects their customers.

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Yes, I agree with all of the above including the one of not choosing another Case regardless of flaws. My ideal case would be near identical with several improvements including thicker metal - High Tensile would be good. I must have researched at least 20 cases and eliminated all with steel less than 0.6mm thickness. When I came to the TJ, nowhere could I find the steel thickness spec. - the only clues being the case weight. I have noted is that it must be one of the few cases with no pressed strengthening ribs on any panel, including the Motherboard tray. Many have u shaped rib pressings especially around the CPU cutout. As you say it is no deal breaker and once completed, it does the job and all is forgotten. One question though - How would a replacement top panel help ? the securing threads are in the side flange of the panel behind that supports the PSU and DVD ROM. That is the reason I used a Speed Clip/Spire Nut as a fix - To grind or mill off the back of the pressed threads from that compartment, and Mig nuts in place of, would have meant removal of the panels at a time when the PC was all but completed. One modification I may add is screw a small plate between the bottom flanges of the PSU compartment - Somewhere between the ends of the PSU and The DVD ROM.
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I was thinking of a slightly different design top cover that held captive nuts in position behind that flimsy PSU/OD casing so you could still use the screw holes in the PSU housing. A simple plate screwed inside would be a good alternative too, I hadn't thought of that, it would also allow you to use captive or welded nuts in there but space would be limited near the optical drive if you used one. I still think it is a design flaw that would be better fixed at the factory instead of having to do it yourself. Better/harder steel would be the simplest method and add to the internal structure and support.
There are no perfect cases and this one has it's minor flaws but I think it is really only designed for a single build with maybe a couple of upgrades over time instead of a fully functioning test jig which was designed to be built and stripped numerous times over a period of years. I can forgive these little issues because the case serves it's purpose but I would really like to see an upgraded 'enthusiast' version of the TJ08-E with some improvements such as;

1. Better quality steel that is thicker and stiffer and bigger/ stronger side panel retaining clips that don't squash so easily when you are putting the covers on. (I keep having to lift the little tabs and it's just a matter of time before one of them breaks off).
2. An improved HDD cage set up which would allow more options for HDD mounting and an alternative GPU card support if necessary.
3. Easier access for the front cover screws and a revised top cover screw size and fixing. There are plenty of alternatives to screws and bad threads.
4. Improved paint on the inside, it seems that the external covers are powder coated but the internals are just plain thin paint on a non primed surface.

I don't know how much this would cost to produce but I'm sure that they would sell and I would think that a large number of current owners would want one if it was offered. There seems to be a number of oversights with this case that is otherwise a very good and popular design, I love it but with a little more attention to detail it could be made a lot better IMO.
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What's up guys! Just another quick questions. I am thinking about getting the Asus Radeon 7970 CUII that is on a sale with 4 free games. Is this card big/long enough to rest on the gpu support provided by the case? It's a massive 3 slot card and i don't want it to break off lol.
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What's up guys! Just another quick questions. I am thinking about getting the Asus Radeon 7970 CUII that is on a sale with 4 free games. Is this card big/long enough to rest on the gpu support provided by the case? It's a massive 3 slot card and i don't want it to break off lol.

It won't break off either way unless you drop the case or something. That said,I don't remember the distance from the PCIbracket to the HDD cage
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It won't break off either way unless you drop the case or something. That said,I don't remember the distance from the PCIbracket to the HDD cage

Oh yeah that's what I wanted to know the exact distance. I know the gtx titan can rest on it properly. Do you know the diff in length between the titan and 7970?
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What's up guys! Just another quick questions. I am thinking about getting the Asus Radeon 7970 CUII that is on a sale with 4 free games. Is this card big/long enough to rest on the gpu support provided by the case? It's a massive 3 slot card and i don't want it to break off lol.
If it's over 250mm long it will rest on the HDD cage no problem
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