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post #4431 of 7198
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Originally Posted by Paddy07 View Post

Hi guys,

I was hoping to build a watercooled SLI rig using the TJ08-e.

I'm wondering whether or not it'd be better to water cool the graphics cards (2x Gigabye gtx 670's SLI) or not, considering you can only fit a 180mm + 120mm Rad in the TJ08-e.
I have read that in air-cooled mATX SLI builds, one card can run 20 degree C hotter than the other. But will the whole thing run even hotter with only 2 single rads?

This was my proposed rig (going for a black/blue/UV theme):

Main Components

CPU: Intel i7 3820
Mobo: MSI X79MA-GD45
HDD: Seagate 3TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB
GPU: Gigabyte Gtx 670 (2x SLI)
PSU: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W ST75F-P
Case: Silverstone TJ08-e

Watercooling

CPU WB: XSPC RayStorm CPU Block
GPU WB: Heatkiller GPU-X3 GTX 680 Hole Edition Ni-Bl + Backplate (x2)
Reservoir: Monsoon Series Two Premium dual bay reservoir
Pump: Swiftech MCP655 Pump PWM -
Radiators:
  1. XSPC EX120 Radiator
  2. Magicool Extreme 180mm x 35mm Slim Radiator
Fans:
  1. Corsair SP120 High Performance Edition 120mm PWM
  2. Phobya 180mm G-Silent 18 LED Fan 700RPM Blue LED
Heatkiller GPU-X Series Dual Link Bridge Block
XSPC FLX Tubing Clear UV 1/2ID 3/4OD 2m
+ Compression Fittings

Thoughts?
Definitely water cool. Those cards aren't the best option to run on air in SLI on mATX due to the fact that they blow hot air back into the inside of the case. I have 2 ASUS DCII 670's and had to underclock to keep temps under 80c.

Those rads should be enough if you are not planning to break any overclocking records thumb.gif
post #4432 of 7198
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Originally Posted by Paddy07 View Post

Watercooling

CPU WB: XSPC RayStorm CPU Block
GPU WB: Heatkiller GPU-X3 GTX 680 Hole Edition Ni-Bl + Backplate (x2)
Reservoir: Monsoon Series Two Premium dual bay reservoir
Pump: Swiftech MCP655 Pump PWM -
Radiators:
  1. XSPC EX120 Radiator
  2. Magicool Extreme 180mm x 35mm Slim Radiator
Fans:
  1. Corsair SP120 High Performance Edition 120mm PWM
  2. Phobya 180mm G-Silent 18 LED Fan 700RPM Blue LED
Heatkiller GPU-X Series Dual Link Bridge Block
XSPC FLX Tubing Clear UV 1/2ID 3/4OD 2m
+ Compression Fittings

Thoughts?

Perhaps use a 200 mm radiator instead of the 180. It barely fits according to those that have used one, but the Phobya 200 rad comes with a 200 to 180 fan adapter to help with attaching to the front panel. You will lose the bottom drive bays completely too, but gain 20% more radiator surface area..
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post #4433 of 7198
hello im in a dilemma :
silverstone frown.gif what case should I shoose :
SG09 or Silverstone TJ08-E?
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post #4434 of 7198
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hello im in a dilemma :
silverstone frown.gif what case should I shoose :
SG09 or Silverstone TJ08-E?

You realise you are asking this in the TJ08-E forum? What answer did you expect to get?
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post #4435 of 7198
well said thumb.gif

I am amazed at how big a fan club this little case has got, I wonder what case (if any) will come along and be better than it ?
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post #4436 of 7198
Maybe advice on someone who have the two ones or who seen the sg09 in real redface.gif
Don't beat me smile.gif
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post #4437 of 7198
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Originally Posted by dartuil View Post

Maybe advice on someone who have the two ones or who seen the sg09 in real redface.gif
Don't beat me smile.gif

mate, i'm just saying maybe you'd have more luck in a different thread or a new thread. you'll most likely only find TJ08-E fanboys in here - of which i am one!

if you really want good advice you'll need to also specify components for your proposed build, plus the intended use for the computer etc.
all those things contribute to what is an appropriate case for your computer. my 2c is unless you're building a low power htpc or something of the sort, the TJ08-E should be your only choice, but i'm guessing you knew that already smile.gif
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post #4438 of 7198
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Originally Posted by seraph84 View Post

mate, i'm just saying maybe you'd have more luck in a different thread or a new thread. you'll most likely only find TJ08-E fanboys in here - of which i am one!

if you really want good advice you'll need to also specify components for your proposed build, plus the intended use for the computer etc.
all those things contribute to what is an appropriate case for your computer. my 2c is unless you're building a low power htpc or something of the sort, the TJ08-E should be your only choice, but i'm guessing you knew that already smile.gif

yeah mate u righ smile.gif
I prefer the TJ08-E for the look my future rig will maybe be :
2600K,Asrock z77pro4-m,16GB,7950,Noctua NH-D14
its a gaming rig but I dont play a lot....
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post #4439 of 7198
The TJ08-E was a simple choice for me as I needed a case with the PSU at the top with top air intake, I couldn't use one with an air intake underneath due to thick carpets. It had to be fairly small and I wanted good cable management built-in, the 180mm fan was a big bonus too but 140mm would have been fine. There are plenty of alternative HDD/SSD mounting possibilities too.I also liked the inverted mobo arrangement which allows R/H access and is ideal for a passively cooled GPU and the airflow characteristics were perfect for my requirements. I don't do water cooling or SLI/Xfire, I am not overclocking to the max and like a small, very quiet PC that has good all round capabilities. There are a number of differences between the TJ08-E and the 350D which set them far apart, only you can decide which one is right for you.

It does have it's limitations but for most people these are minor issues that are easily overcome. One of the limitations of this build is that I can't use all the PCI slots without risking heat build-up so I will be upgrading my mobo in the future to one with better sound output. Working within the capabilities of the case is challenging but very rewarding.
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post #4440 of 7198
The PSU intaking from outside air won't make any real difference though compared to taking internal air. So it's a moot point. But the TJ08-E is still the smaller case.

Dartuil; Consider the Asus P8Z77 M Pro over that Pro4-M. It's just a better board. Costs a little more; but IMO it's worth it.
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