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HI all,

I did my new gaming build in a TJ08-E, but I'm having a problem with the front fan that maybe other owners can help with: The front fan will not spin while the fan speed toggle is on low. The fan spins fine while in hi speed mode. It doesn't matter if the fan is already spinning in hi mode when I flip it to low, the low speed will always just stop the fan from spinning. When it stops spinning completely there is a whining noise that it makes that I can only assume is some sort of electrical noise from trying to supply a certain amount of power that isn't doing any work. I haven't seen this complaint anywhere else so I probably got a bad fan. It happens, but there's no way I want to RMA the case over this, especially with how addicted to skyrim I am. It's not the end of the world, but the fan on high speed is not acceptable long term noise-wise for everyday tasks. I've also heard that the front fan is very difficulty to remove... Any thoughts on my situation?
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post #492 of 7172
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Originally Posted by decapitor View Post

HI all,
I did my new gaming build in a TJ08-E, but I'm having a problem with the front fan that maybe other owners can help with: The front fan will not spin while the fan speed toggle is on low. The fan spins fine while in hi speed mode. It doesn't matter if the fan is already spinning in hi mode when I flip it to low, the low speed will always just stop the fan from spinning. When it stops spinning completely there is a whining noise that it makes that I can only assume is some sort of electrical noise from trying to supply a certain amount of power that isn't doing any work. I haven't seen this complaint anywhere else so I probably got a bad fan. It happens, but there's no way I want to RMA the case over this, especially with how addicted to skyrim I am. It's not the end of the world, but the fan on high speed is not acceptable long term noise-wise for everyday tasks. I've also heard that the front fan is very difficulty to remove... Any thoughts on my situation?

If you still have your manual that you got with your case it is laid out in there how to remove the fan. You should be able to pickup a new one for approximately 23USD. Otherwise, you can download the manual as a PDF and print it out from silverstones website.

But it sounds like you have a bad bearing. and when more current it running though it, it is able to push past the friction of the bad bearing. But on the lower current low setting it just isnt enough power, so that noise you hear is the motor 'grinding'
post #493 of 7172
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If you still have your manual that you got with your case it is laid out in there how to remove the fan. You should be able to pickup a new one for approximately 23USD. Otherwise, you can download the manual as a PDF and print it out from silverstones website.
But it sounds like you have a bad bearing. and when more current it running though it, it is able to push past the friction of the bad bearing. But on the lower current low setting it just isnt enough power, so that noise you hear is the motor 'grinding'

Thanks, I emailed silverstone, hopefully they'll just send me a replacement fan otherwise I'll get one myself. I may also get a fan controller for better manual control.
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post #494 of 7172
Hello fellow TJ08B-E lovers
It's been, again, 4 years since my last build and it feel an intense craving to once more compose a new electric love. I can't resist, I must build biggrin.gif. Especially after my eye fell onto the Silverstone TJ08B-E case. I've been selecting components for this case for weeks now. Please have a look at my pick:

I want it to be a reasonably priced rig, dead-quiet (which my last one wasn't the least bit) and low on wattage usage while able to play games like Skyrim, Fallout, CoD4 and the likes. I think low idle watt usage can be good as well.

Budget:
I'm willing to spend the extra ca$h when I feel a component is worth the money in terms of reliability and performance, but I try to keep the total of my budget no higher than, say, 725 EUR (1000 USD).

Usage of the new rig:
The usual actually, so in order of importance and most time spend:
Gaming (CoD4), Solidworks, Photoshop, Illustrator and a bit of internet and watching HD rips. No video encoding or other fancy computing stuff.

Well, onto the fun part:

Current pick of the components:
CASE: Silverstone TJ08B-E
PSU: Seasonic X-560 80+ Gold
MOBO: Asus ROG Maximus IV GENE-Z
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/8G (2x8 = 19 Gb total)
GPU: To be decided...
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2
CPU/CASE FAN: Nexus Real Silent D12SL-12 BW, 120mm
SSD: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB
HDD: To be postponed until the prices drop.

Costs: € 725.
Unfortunately, I still want to add a GPU and HDD. I will not remain inside my budget. frown.gif

Thoughts per components:
CASE: Silverstone TJ08B-E - I love the look of it, and it is mATX. Nice to try that out again.
PSU: Seasonic X-560 80+ Gold - Five years of warranty, energy efficient (quiet) and I'm blinded by it's pure beauty.
MOBO:Asus ROG Maximus IV GENE-Z - overkill overkill overkill - but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board. For resale value, I could overclock this monsterboard with a second hand I5 2500k after five years. But don't know if that's a smart choice. Never resold any of my PC's btw.
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 - Cheap and beats my AMD pick (AMD X4 Athlon 640).
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/8G (2x8 = 19 Gb total) - cheap, low profile and did I mention cheap? Goes well with my Photoshop and Illustrator work.
GPU: To be decided... - 6770 perhaps? Anybody?
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 - tough decision. There are so many heatsinks out there. Don't know if I should buy a reasonably priced HS or spend the extra cash to have some room for a secondhand i5 2500k in, say, two years.
CPU/CASE FAN: Nexus Real Silent D12SL-12 BW, 120mm - still have one gathering dust.
SSD: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB - It's time for me to step into the SSD-train. The M4 is the one of the most reliable SSD's out there.
HDD: To be postponed until the prices drop. - way too expensive to invest in a Ecogreen 2Tb Samsung drive. I let this one slide and put in a 250 Gb I have in my old rig.

I still need to invest time into deciding what kind of GPU I want to throw into this rig. Tips are welcome. I have at the moment a 7900 GS (four years old) and playing CoD4 at a reasonable graphic quality.

If you guys seen anything out of the ordinary and/or have suggestions, I'm happy to adjust my pick.
post #495 of 7172
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but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board.
There are some H67 boards with USB 3.0 like for example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157235
I'll try finding some more later.

The U12P is way overkill for an i3. Actually, you'd be fine with stock.
post #496 of 7172
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Originally Posted by botox View Post

Hello fellow TJ08B-E lovers
It's been, again, 4 years since my last build and it feel an intense craving to once more compose a new electric love. I can't resist, I must build biggrin.gif. Especially after my eye fell onto the Silverstone TJ08B-E case. I've been selecting components for this case for weeks now. Please have a look at my pick:
I want it to be a reasonably priced rig, dead-quiet (which my last one wasn't the least bit) and low on wattage usage while able to play games like Skyrim, Fallout, CoD4 and the likes. I think low idle watt usage can be good as well.
Budget:
I'm willing to spend the extra ca$h when I feel a component is worth the money in terms of reliability and performance, but I try to keep the total of my budget no higher than, say, 725 EUR (1000 USD).
Usage of the new rig:
The usual actually, so in order of importance and most time spend:
Gaming (CoD4), Solidworks, Photoshop, Illustrator and a bit of internet and watching HD rips. No video encoding or other fancy computing stuff.
.

For a cooler, That is overkill for an i3. if you want one that vents away from the motherboard try a (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134) that one is reasonable, and cools my friends core 2 duo very well (i3 is lower TDP than core duo so it should work better)

That motherboard is really nice, but you can find very similar mainboards for cheaper. Unless you want to SLI your videocards, I would go with something similar to the one yashau recommended.

value ram will always be available, so i would start with 8 and upgrade when you get that 2500k. because, your i3 prob wont process fast enough to hit 8GB unless there is something you arent telling us. I use adobe Pro for video editing, and once I have imported and converted the video it uses about 3gb, I am assuming photoshop and the like will run similarly. Therefore, I recomend rocking 8gb, save that money due to budget concerns, and get moar stuffffff

Videocards: I personally love my Nvidia cards. They seem to have better driver support and less conflicts in games (from my experience) I have had Radeon in the past and it was too much effort for me. remember that you can fit any card up to 13.3inches long. I would recommend an externally exhausting 460 they go for $150 right now and they play most pretty well according to benches.

I am waiting for hard drives to fall too, my 2tb data drive has 100gb left....1tb OS drive has 300 left (and I have a new project for work, 200GB raw HD capture is going to be transferred on DARNIT!!).

If you drop one set of ram, cheaper motherboard. you will be closer to budget plus, you could afford a videocard too.

Rebuttal good sir.
post #497 of 7172
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Originally Posted by yashau View Post

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but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board.
There are some H67 boards with USB 3.0 like for example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157235
I'll try finding some more later.
The U12P is way overkill for an i3. Actually, you'd be fine with stock.

Why would he want an h67..... It can't overclock ****. I think he has the right mobo, but I don't see why he needs an SSD. Sacrifice the SSD and get a HDD and GPU. Although I wouldn't get anything less than a GTX 560 or you are going to be replacing your GPU in like 6 months for something better.
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Also make sure your GPU has atleast 1 gig of ram or newer video games like BF3 will eat it alive!
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post #499 of 7172
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Originally Posted by botox View Post

Hello fellow TJ08B-E lovers
It's been, again, 4 years since my last build and it feel an intense craving to once more compose a new electric love. I can't resist, I must build biggrin.gif. Especially after my eye fell onto the Silverstone TJ08B-E case. I've been selecting components for this case for weeks now. Please have a look at my pick:
I want it to be a reasonably priced rig, dead-quiet (which my last one wasn't the least bit) and low on wattage usage while able to play games like Skyrim, Fallout, CoD4 and the likes. I think low idle watt usage can be good as well.
Budget:
I'm willing to spend the extra ca$h when I feel a component is worth the money in terms of reliability and performance, but I try to keep the total of my budget no higher than, say, 725 EUR (1000 USD).
Usage of the new rig:
The usual actually, so in order of importance and most time spend:
Gaming (CoD4), Solidworks, Photoshop, Illustrator and a bit of internet and watching HD rips. No video encoding or other fancy computing stuff.
Well, onto the fun part:
Current pick of the components:
CASE: Silverstone TJ08B-E
PSU: Seasonic X-560 80+ Gold
MOBO: Asus ROG Maximus IV GENE-Z
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/8G (2x8 = 19 Gb total)
GPU: To be decided...
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2
CPU/CASE FAN: Nexus Real Silent D12SL-12 BW, 120mm
SSD: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB
HDD: To be postponed until the prices drop.
Costs: € 725.
Unfortunately, I still want to add a GPU and HDD. I will not remain inside my budget. frown.gif
Thoughts per components:
CASE: Silverstone TJ08B-E - I love the look of it, and it is mATX. Nice to try that out again.
PSU: Seasonic X-560 80+ Gold - Five years of warranty, energy efficient (quiet) and I'm blinded by it's pure beauty.
MOBO:Asus ROG Maximus IV GENE-Z - overkill overkill overkill - but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board. For resale value, I could overclock this monsterboard with a second hand I5 2500k after five years. But don't know if that's a smart choice. Never resold any of my PC's btw.
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100 - Cheap and beats my AMD pick (AMD X4 Athlon 640).
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/8G (2x8 = 19 Gb total) - cheap, low profile and did I mention cheap? Goes well with my Photoshop and Illustrator work.
GPU: To be decided... - 6770 perhaps? Anybody?
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 - tough decision. There are so many heatsinks out there. Don't know if I should buy a reasonably priced HS or spend the extra cash to have some room for a secondhand i5 2500k in, say, two years.
CPU/CASE FAN: Nexus Real Silent D12SL-12 BW, 120mm - still have one gathering dust.
SSD: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB - It's time for me to step into the SSD-train. The M4 is the one of the most reliable SSD's out there.
HDD: To be postponed until the prices drop. - way too expensive to invest in a Ecogreen 2Tb Samsung drive. I let this one slide and put in a 250 Gb I have in my old rig.
I still need to invest time into deciding what kind of GPU I want to throw into this rig. Tips are welcome. I have at the moment a 7900 GS (four years old) and playing CoD4 at a reasonable graphic quality.
If you guys seen anything out of the ordinary and/or have suggestions, I'm happy to adjust my pick.

Assuming you are located in America, here are some upgrades that cost less or same as your current build. All being time sensitive.

OCZ 700w 80plus PSU $59.99

OCZ Z-Series 1000w Gold PSU $109

I5 2500k + add the coolit watercooler $190+$30 similar cost to your current setup but faster.

You might want to look for some better ram, but it's not important I suppose.

Also look at ncix for graphics card. I find them to be much cheaper than newegg with all of their products. I just discovered them recently and ordered half my build from them, bc the prices and free holiday shipping was unbeatable.
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post #500 of 7172
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Originally Posted by yashau View Post

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but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board.
There are some H67 boards with USB 3.0 like for example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157235
I'll try finding some more later.
The U12P is way overkill for an i3. Actually, you'd be fine with stock.


Thanks mate. I examined the image on Newegg, looking for an USB 3.0 header for my front panel. Couldn't find it though.

Perhaps I shouldn't make the USB 3.0 demand and save some serious cash on the mobo, by replacing it with an alternative.
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