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but the only board I could find which has a USB 3.0 header on board.
There are some H67 boards with USB 3.0 like for example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157235
I'll try finding some more later.
The U12P is way overkill for an i3. Actually, you'd be fine with stock.
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Why would he want an h67..... It can't overclock ****. I think he has the right mobo, but I don't see why he needs an SSD. Sacrifice the SSD and get a HDD and GPU. Although I wouldn't get anything less than a GTX 560 or you are going to be replacing your GPU in like 6 months for something better.

I'm being led by all the positive response on the internet how drastic of a speed improvement a SSD can be for your system. I'd love to try it out now. Also, HDD are so expensive, I might as well buy a SSD now.
Edited by botox - 11/21/11 at 11:53pm
post #502 of 7204
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Assuming you are located in America, here are some upgrades that cost less or same as your current build. All being time sensitive.
OCZ 700w 80plus PSU $59.99
OCZ Z-Series 1000w Gold PSU $109
I5 2500k + add the coolit watercooler $190+$30 similar cost to your current setup but faster.
You might want to look for some better ram, but it's not important I suppose.
Also look at ncix for graphics card. I find them to be much cheaper than newegg with all of their products. I just discovered them recently and ordered half my build from them, bc the prices and free holiday shipping was unbeatable.

Unfortunately I do not live in the US. I live in The Netherlands, so I'm scouting here my parts. And reading on Newegg and Amazon the user experiences.

I think this RAM will do. It is supported by ASUS, albeit it is the 4 Gb version, but I suppose there will not be any difficulties.
post #503 of 7204
Update of the components list:

CASE: Silverstone TJ08B-E
PSU: be quiet! Straight Power E9 400W
MOBO: Asus ROG Maximus IV GENE-Z
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/8G (1x8 = removed one)
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2
SSD: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB

I've changed the PSU and CPU cooler. Removed one stick of RAM (now 8 Gb total) and added a videocard.

Tried looking for a different MOBO, but couldn't find a motherboard with a USB 3.0 header for my front panel of my case. Thinking of swapping the MOBO with a MSI H67 board, but the chipset limits me in future upgrades and some moderate OC-ing.

The PSU is a German brand, quite know in Germany and The Netherlands. Newegg had them, but never sold many units nore got really well known in the US. Anyways, it has 5 year warranty, is Gold certified (not sure if it really means something). It's half the price of the Seasonic. So I hope it is worth the risk to buy a none-reviewed PSU. Will see.

The GPU chosen is the Sapphire HD 6770. Not really delved into the GPU mountain of information, benchmarks and reviews. I'm following suggestions from you guys, and people on Newegg are happy with it.

I'm still doubting if I should get the Noctua CPU cooler, since I might buy a secondhand i5 or i7 when they become available in the future.

Happy to hear your feedback.


Owh, and € 704. biggrin.gif
Edited by botox - 11/22/11 at 1:39pm
post #504 of 7204
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Update of the components list:
PSU: be quiet! Straight Power E9 400W

The PSU is a German brand, quite know in Germany and The Netherlands. Newegg had them, but never sold many units nore got really well known in the US. Anyways, it has 5 year warranty, is Gold certified (not sure if it really means something). It's half the price of the Seasonic. So I hope it is worth the risk to buy a none-reviewed PSU. Will see.
Looks nice - but is a Seasonic that expensive over there? Which model? I have the S12II 430B and it has been perfect for almost a year so far - nice and quiet.
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post #505 of 7204
I think Be Quiet! E9 400W is based on FSP Aurum series, maybe with upgraded capacitors. They're pretty decent but unspectacular other than efficiency. But definitely this version has the Be Quiet! SilentWings fan and should be extremely quiet, unlike some of their older lower-end models, and unlike the FSP Aurum. If it is somewhat cheaper than Seasonic X Series, I would take it. If it's like half the price, it's a no-brainer (unless like Super Flower Golden Green is of comparable price).

I'd definitely not try a 92mm fan mini tower cooler if you're looking for low noise. That's why you selected that PSU, right?
post #506 of 7204
Going 400watt is pointless unless you are going to build an HTPC. Look at what you have, I would go back to the 750watt. Being efficient doesn't matter when you are running at 100% efficiency.



Anyways.... 2 more days till I get home!!!!! Finally get to build my comuter!!! **** YEAH!!!!!
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post #507 of 7204
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Why would he want an h67..... It can't overclock ****. I think he has the right mobo, but I don't see why he needs an SSD. Sacrifice the SSD and get a HDD and GPU. Although I wouldn't get anything less than a GTX 560 or you are going to be replacing your GPU in like 6 months for something better.

You can't overclock an i3 anyway so what's your point?

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Going 400watt is pointless unless you are going to build an HTPC. Look at what you have, I would go back to the 750watt. Being efficient doesn't matter when you are running at 100% efficiency.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Edited by yashau - 11/23/11 at 1:34am
post #508 of 7204
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You can't overclock an i3 anyway so what's your point?
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Going 400watt is pointless unless you are going to build an HTPC. Look at what you have, I would go back to the 750watt. Being efficient doesn't matter when you are running at 100% efficiency.
That makes absolutely no sense.


Yeah I'll explain.

First off look at his mobo...... He can replace the i3 easily in the future.

Second let me explain my efficiency logic to you. Lets say you have a computer that needs 400w to run, and you are using a 400w psu. The PSU will be running at it's max efficiency or load. If you have a 800w PSU running the same system, the PSU will only be running half its max efficiency. What this means is the larger psu will run cooler, last longer, less chance of damaging components, and your fan won't have to run 24/7.

Both PSU's use efficient components, which only matters if you are worried about your power bill. 80 gold, silver, or bronze are just rating for their POWER efficiency. Meaning it converts the power more efficiently.
ex. Let's say a we have a psu that runs at 75% efficiency. In order for it to produce 75w, it requires 100w of power. The power efficiency is just measuring the gap between the conversion of power between AC to DC.

Oh and lets just stop this argument since it is a TJ08 thread.... not a psu thread thumb.gif
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post #509 of 7204
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Yeah I'll explain.
First off look at his mobo...... He can replace the i3 easily in the future.
Second let me explain my efficiency logic to you. Lets say you have a computer that needs 400w to run, and you are using a 400w psu. The PSU will be running at it's max efficiency or load. If you have a 800w PSU running the same system, the PSU will only be running half its max efficiency. What this means is the larger psu will run cooler, last longer, less chance of damaging components, and your fan won't have to run 24/7.
Both PSU's use efficient components, which only matters if you are worried about your power bill. 80 gold, silver, or bronze are just rating for their POWER efficiency. Meaning it converts the power more efficiently.
ex. Let's say a we have a psu that runs at 75% efficiency. In order for it to produce 75w, it requires 100w of power. The power efficiency is just measuring the gap between the conversion of power between AC to DC.
Oh and lets just stop this argument since it is a TJ08 thread.... not a psu thread thumb.gif

It's just that your wording was a bit off. You should have written 100% load instead of efficiency. It kinda confused me there for a second.
post #510 of 7204
You're still a bit off copper -
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Supplies are typically most efficient at between half and three quarters load, much less efficient at low load, and somewhat less efficient at maximum load.
- Source.

If you're building a system that can draw a max of 300W, then a 400-600W PSU is perfect. A nice 400W unit can easily outlast, be more efficient, and even supply more current than some mid and low range 600W units. Also, it will be more efficient when not at full tilt (which is where my computers are running 90% of the time).

FWIW, my sig rig will pull ~300W max from the wall as measured with my Kill-a-Watt.
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