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post #5391 of 7170
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Originally Posted by cloudbuster View Post

Yep that the reason I'm buying this case big 180 up front and pos pressure.

Those ram I listed don't seem to get good press.
Would this ones be better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313399&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687
Does it matter 8 or 16GB? Or better to get g skill sniper?

Now I'm even considering R9 280x crossfire. Or buy the 2nd one later.
I know if I get GTX 780 I will never do SLI since they cost about $100 more.
GTX 780 can be had for about $450 shipped right now.......you do know that right? thumb.gif Id take a GTX 780 over a 290 or 290x let alone a 280x..........
post #5392 of 7170
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Originally Posted by theKab View Post

When I look at the inside of the case in photos and videos it really looks like the front fan barely comes above the GPU(with one installed) and in this case GPUs draw in air from the top. It looks like all the cool air will be below the GPU. If it makes any sense? EDIT: Note also that the GPU I will be putting in here is an Asus HD6950 DCII that takes up 3 expansion slots.

Not planning on SLI/Crossfire no, but I need the ability to add my PCI wireless network card for potential locations where getting a cabled connection could prove impossible. Like my parent's house when going home for holidays and/or vacations.
Thank you. The PS07 is slightly lighter, but it is also slightly longer. Will need to do some more research in any case(no pun). Decisions decisions!

You do understand the concept of positive pressure correct? THe front fan pushes in more air what what is expelled. The gpu's do draw in air from the top on this case........that 180mm pushes in so much air into the case that those gpu's are constantly drawing in fresh cold air from the front, from the front fan regardless if they are offset a bit or not.

If you had the case in front of you and turned on the front fan you would understand why cool air for this case is NOT a problem. You are way over thinking things............
post #5393 of 7170
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Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

Right. I'm doing much the same thing. I wanted the extra card slots so that I could have more options down the road, but I'm never planning to SLI unless some future monitor tech makes it practically mandatory in order to get a smooth game experience.

That time is now here. Nvidia's G-sync technology is out finally. And its the real deal. Grab an Asus/BenQ 144hz monitor, current Nvidia card and the new G sync module. Combined you now have the GPU of your PC control the refresh rate of the monitor in REAL time. In other words the frame rates that the video card outputs are perfectly sync'd with the monitors display refresh.....for every frame. So no more screen tearing, or stuttering, and no lag either. So if your video card jumps from 35-40fps on a brutal scene back up to 80-90 frames or more, that's exactly what the display monitor will output. Want to see real 3d depth and smoothness like you never have encountered before on a computer? Tell Santa to hook you up. thumb.gif
post #5394 of 7170
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Originally Posted by Leviathan25 View Post

The max height on RAM with the HDD cage installed is 54mm. When buying ram, make sure it's not taller than that. Also make sure that your cooler will clear it as well (look up the manual for whatever CPU cooler you go with).

When buying OC ram, lower voltage and lower CAS latency is best. The reason that RAM is cheap is this:

Timing 11-13-13-35
Cas Latency 11
Voltage 1.65V

Compare that with the Mushkin Redline for $87
Timing: 9-11-10-28
Cas Latency: 9
Voltage: 1.65V

Not always, but most of the time the price of RAM is directly proportional to its timing and latency characteristics. Looking at New Egg, the only time I see this rule broken is if you are paying for name brand (corsair) or special heat sinks or colors on the RAM.

If you have the extra money to spend, try to get something in CAS 9 latency if possible. If not, even CAS 10 would be better.

However, even the CAS 11 that you've picked out will do. Bear in mind that performance jumps in memory is very small. The difference between a 1866 CAS9 and a 2133 CAS11 is so small that they are practically identicle.

This Gskill Cas 8 ram is probably the best value that I see, and would probably blow away the ram you picked out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231538

As for the amount of RAM, it really just depends on how much money you want to spend. In terms of playing games, there's little to no difference between 8 and 16, but 16 can allow you to have more programs open at once. Depends on how much multi-tasking you do.

Given a budget and a choice, I'd go for 8gb, but a lower cas latency, than slower memory, but 16gb of it.

Thanks for the clarification since is been a while from my last build.
I was under the impression that RAM like that won't fit, so that one does fit or you linked it just to show me the cas speed. To bad newegg don't show RAM size.
I would get the new cooler master hyper 212x don't know how tall is it would have to look once I get home.
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Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core ASRock Z87M OC Formula Micro ATX LGA1150 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 
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Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD Western Digital 1TB Black WD1002FAEX Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer Cooler Master Hyper 212 X 
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GTX 780 can be had for about $450 shipped right now.......you do know that right? thumb.gif Id take a GTX 780 over a 290 or 290x let alone a 280x..........

All I saw was $500 could you share where they have them for $450.
Thanks.
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Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD Western Digital 1TB Black WD1002FAEX Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer Cooler Master Hyper 212 X 
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Newegg has a 10% off discount code as well using masterpass......lowers price to $450 for an MSI Lightning card(top notch).
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Newegg has a 10% off discount code as well using masterpass......lowers price to $450 for an MSI Lightning card(top notch).

The lightning is at 550 they have another MSI at 490 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127746N82E16814127746 plus another 20 off rebate.

What wrong with the r9 280x single or crossfire.
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Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD Western Digital 1TB Black WD1002FAEX Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer Cooler Master Hyper 212 X 
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" SSD Western Digital 1TB Black WD1002FAEX Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer Cooler Master Hyper 212 X 
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post #5398 of 7170
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The lightning is at 550 they have another MSI at 490 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127746N82E16814127746 plus another 20 off rebate.

What wrong with the r9 280x single or crossfire.
It was on sale yesterday.....well the EVGA is on sale now for $499, with 10% discount ends up being $449 shipped.

I mean if you want to spend $400 for an inferior 280x go right ahead. But $50 more gets you a GTX 780............that's a no brainer.
post #5399 of 7170
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Originally Posted by ZippyPinhead View Post

You do understand the concept of positive pressure correct? THe front fan pushes in more air what what is expelled. The gpu's do draw in air from the top on this case........that 180mm pushes in so much air into the case that those gpu's are constantly drawing in fresh cold air from the front, from the front fan regardless if they are offset a bit or not.

If you had the case in front of you and turned on the front fan you would understand why cool air for this case is NOT a problem. You are way over thinking things............

Yes I understand the concept of positive pressure. And you are way overusing your punctuations........... In fact it's hard to take you very seriously because of it, makes you look bad IMO. There's no need to be condescending like you have been. I overlooked it the first times but you just keep going so thought I would just mention it.
Edited by theKab - 12/16/13 at 9:07am
post #5400 of 7170
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Originally Posted by cloudbuster View Post

Thanks for the clarification since is been a while from my last build.
I was under the impression that RAM like that won't fit, so that one does fit or you linked it just to show me the cas speed. To bad newegg don't show RAM size.
I would get the new cooler master hyper 212x don't know how tall is it would have to look once I get home.

Hm.. that RAM is 40mm. The clearance on the HDD cage is 54mm, and the clearance on most heatsinks is 44mm. The hyper 212x, being a single-sink tower cooler, shouldn't be a problem as I doubt it will even reach past the ram area on your board. You'd need one of hose fatter heatsinks to have to worry about clearance.
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