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Anyone having an issue with the 180mm front fan stopping on low setting? When I switch to the low setting the fan stops. Runs fine at High, but it's loud and no reason I need that much cooling.

Running on a Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2.

Do you have any fan speed control enabled for that header in the BIOS or OS (i.e Speedfan)? If not, the mobo should be able to provide 12v to the fan for proper startup. If using BIOS to control the fan speed, it may be too quick to limit the voltage so the fan never starts.

If possible, switch to a program like Speedfan to control the speed and disable any BIOS control - that way, it will have full power until the OS loads the program (set it to run at startup) at which point it will quiet down automatically. Then set the fans low speed limit so that it doesn't stop spinning. You should still be able to leave the physical switch on low and have it nearly silent when it's not needed.
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Hey guys smile.gif

Magn, awesome build you have there. I like it. Pretty picture too biggrin.gif

Anyways, I'm in the midst of finalizing my build.

Processor : i5 2500k
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Gen 3
PSU: Corsair GS700W
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3
Gpu: MSI GTX580 Lightning Xtreme 3GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
SSD: OCZ Agility 60GB
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB

I am considering this casing and was wondering if everything would fit in perfectly. I believe my build is more or less the same as Magn, so there shouldn't be much of a difference in fitting the parts in the casing. I just hope my psu would fit in it. About the HDD and SSD, would they be mounted at the bottom since the CPU cooler is huge? Would the hdd be cooled adequately?
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post #543 of 7172
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That was it. Connecting to the PSU with a molex connector allows me to set it to low speed. A little quieter, but definitely not silent. High speed is very loud, so no plans on switching to high any time soon. Have to do some more research to see what I can do with it to quiet the low speed setting more. This is for the family machine so no OC'ing and quiet is more of a priority as it is used quite a bit for watching TV/movies, etc.
Love the case so it's worth the effort.

Oh man I wish I'd seen this post before last night. I was having the exact same problem and thought it was the fan. I contacted Silverstone and they have a new fan in the mail. Last night I completely took off the front panel (kind of a pain) and removed the fan to prepare for the new fan. I guess I'll just send the fan back and put everything back together... Thanks for posting this though I appreciate it.
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post #544 of 7172
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Hey guys smile.gif
Magn, awesome build you have there. I like it. Pretty picture too biggrin.gif
Anyways, I'm in the midst of finalizing my build.
Processor : i5 2500k
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Gen 3
PSU: Corsair GS700W
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3
Gpu: MSI GTX580 Lightning Xtreme 3GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
SSD: OCZ Agility 60GB
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB
I am considering this casing and was wondering if everything would fit in perfectly. I believe my build is more or less the same as Magn, so there shouldn't be much of a difference in fitting the parts in the casing. I just hope my psu would fit in it. About the HDD and SSD, would they be mounted at the bottom since the CPU cooler is huge? Would the hdd be cooled adequately?

Everything you have listed will fit just fine. I have a PSU that is 2 inches longer than that one and it 'fits with modification' so you are just fine.

You can get a 3.5-2.5 SSD mount and mount that right in the hdd bay (with 90deg sata and power cables), but know there is no direct ventilation on the floor of the case. but the air flow from the 180 should move the air around enough for a single hard drive on the floor of the case to survive.
post #545 of 7172
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Everything you have listed will fit just fine. I have a PSU that is 2 inches longer than that one and it 'fits with modification' so you are just fine.
You can get a 3.5-2.5 SSD mount and mount that right in the hdd bay (with 90deg sata and power cables), but know there is no direct ventilation on the floor of the case. but the air flow from the 180 should move the air around enough for a single hard drive on the floor of the case to survive.

Thank you for the clarification. So if my understanding is correct, I would have to purchase an additional mount for my SSD. When you mentioned 90 deg sata and power cables, do you mean that my existing cable would be tilted 90 degrees?

The hdd would sit on the floor of the casing without any further modification or tools right?

Would it be possible to mount a small 60mm fan to cool the hdd?
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post #546 of 7172
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Everything you have listed will fit just fine. I have a PSU that is 2 inches longer than that one and it 'fits with modification' so you are just fine.
You can get a 3.5-2.5 SSD mount and mount that right in the hdd bay (with 90deg sata and power cables), but know there is no direct ventilation on the floor of the case. but the air flow from the 180 should move the air around enough for a single hard drive on the floor of the case to survive.

Thank you for the clarification. So if my understanding is correct, I would have to purchase an additional mount for my SSD. When you mentioned 90 deg sata and power cables, do you mean that my existing cable would be tilted 90 degrees?

The hdd would sit on the floor of the casing without any further modification or tools right?

Would it be possible to mount a small 60mm fan to cool the hdd?

Yea, if you go to newegg.com and search for 90 degree sata cables you can find some there. You will need to buy an adaptor from 3.5 to 2.5in for the ssd if you want to mount it in the hard drive cage. The bottom most section of the hard drive rack has holes for one 3.5in hard drive, there is also space for a 2.5in ssd underneath that hard drive but you are already. Concerned about heat so I recomended that you mount the ssd in the rack itself for cooling. There is no room on the bottom specifically for a 60mm fan, but that won't stop you if you wanted to try to mount one there as a case mod.


I sent his from my iPod and can't really see any spelling errors. If you need more clarification I get off in a few hours and will finish your questions
post #547 of 7172
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Yea, if you go to newegg.com and search for 90 degree sata cables you can find some there. You will need to buy an adaptor from 3.5 to 2.5in for the ssd if you want to mount it in the hard drive cage. The bottom most section of the hard drive rack has holes for one 3.5in hard drive, there is also space for a 2.5in ssd underneath that hard drive but you are already. Concerned about heat so I recomended that you mount the ssd in the rack itself for cooling. There is no room on the bottom specifically for a 60mm fan, but that won't stop you if you wanted to try to mount one there as a case mod.
I sent his from my iPod and can't really see any spelling errors. If you need more clarification I get off in a few hours and will finish your questions

Your spelling is flawless smile.gif

Thank you for confirming my understanding. Oh by the way, I am living in Malaysia, so no newegg for me biggrin.gif

I just double checked with a local seller and he mentioned that Corsair's force SSD comes with a mount but i am not so sure of how the force SSD compares to OCz's agility SSD. He did mention that he has 90 degrees sata cables in hand so i shall get that from him.

Do I need the 90 deg sata cable for the SSD or for both the SSD and HDD? Also, I am confused by the 90 degrees power cables that you mentioned earlier. Don't my PSU already have it? Or is there an additional cable that I should get to connect to both the psu and the ssd/hdd?
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You need the 90 degree cable for the SSD and a regular straight one for the 3.5".
post #549 of 7172
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Originally Posted by Avngl View Post

Hey guys smile.gif
Magn, awesome build you have there. I like it. Pretty picture too biggrin.gif
Anyways, I'm in the midst of finalizing my build.
Processor : i5 2500k
Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Gen 3
PSU: Corsair GS700W
Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3
Gpu: MSI GTX580 Lightning Xtreme 3GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
SSD: OCZ Agility 60GB
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB
I am considering this casing and was wondering if everything would fit in perfectly. I believe my build is more or less the same as Magn, so there shouldn't be much of a difference in fitting the parts in the casing. I just hope my psu would fit in it. About the HDD and SSD, would they be mounted at the bottom since the CPU cooler is huge? Would the hdd be cooled adequately?

You won`t be able to mount a HDD in the HDD compartment with the NH-D14. There are mounting holes for both an HDD and SSD in the very bottom compartment, which is where I put mine. I have no issues with them over heating down there.
    
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Do you have any fan speed control enabled for that header in the BIOS or OS (i.e Speedfan)? If not, the mobo should be able to provide 12v to the fan for proper startup. If using BIOS to control the fan speed, it may be too quick to limit the voltage so the fan never starts.
If possible, switch to a program like Speedfan to control the speed and disable any BIOS control - that way, it will have full power until the OS loads the program (set it to run at startup) at which point it will quiet down automatically. Then set the fans low speed limit so that it doesn't stop spinning. You should still be able to leave the physical switch on low and have it nearly silent when it's not needed.

My understanding and what I have looked for/found in the BIOS as well as read online and in the manual is that there is no way to control the SYS_FAN header on this specific mobo. The CPU_FAN can be controlled by BIOS, but not the SYS_FAN. Funny thing is that the SYS_FAN is a 4-pin header, but the 4th pin is shown in the manual as RESERVE so it must have been intended to be a PWM but for whatever reason the final product did not include Speed Control. It does have SENSE, so I can get the rpm's via BIOS or SpeedFan if I have it plugged into the mobo, but then it does not provide enough juice to start the fan on the low setting. The only fan option in BIOS is CPU Smart Fan Control which when enabled allows the user to set it at Auto, Voltage or PWM.

It should be providing 12v, per the manual but from a couple of Google searches on the subject, there are plenty of others that have issues with a fan not starting when plugged into the SYS_FAN header, not just on the TJ08-E. I have tried SpeedFan but I have not been able to control the fan by software. I may not be using SpeedFan correctly so I'll have to try playing with it more to see if I am missing something.

I may just replace it with a Phobya 180mm or a Noctua 140mm and try that.
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