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post #5911 of 7177
Hi guys. I'm interested in buying this case but I have some questions for you. I wonder if I can fit in there Corsair RM450 with the space between the drive and the psu won't be too cramped or should I buy Corsair CS450M. My second question is that I'd like to mount the 3.5 drive directly to the bottom of the case but with the cables facing to the motherboard tray (like the ssd have) and I wonder if I could mount it directly to the bottom or preferably I'd like to rotate the whole tray but I don't know if it would fit there..
post #5912 of 7177
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Originally Posted by Mayor Payne View Post

Hi guys. I'm interested in buying this case but I have some questions for you. I wonder if I can fit in there Corsair RM450 with the space between the drive and the psu won't be too cramped or should I buy Corsair CS450M. My second question is that I'd like to mount the 3.5 drive directly to the bottom of the case but with the cables facing to the motherboard tray (like the ssd have) and I wonder if I could mount it directly to the bottom or preferably I'd like to rotate the whole tray but I don't know if it would fit there..
Honestly you shouldn't buy either one of those. How much can you spend, and what are you powering?
post #5913 of 7177
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Originally Posted by ZephyrBit View Post

Honestly you shouldn't buy either one of those. How much can you spend, and what are you powering?

Why ? Isn't corsair a good brand ? Well around 80 € but I don't need unnecessary expensive power supply because I don't use CF or SLI and I don't intend to, I only use 3 sata power connectors (SSD,HDD & Blu ray drive). Currently I'm using a P7P55D e-pro and AMD 6970 but I'm saving for MSI N770. I would like to build a quiet system & I'd like to have a modular psu since I don't use that much cables.
post #5914 of 7177
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Originally Posted by Mayor Payne View Post

Why ? Isn't corsair a good brand ? Well around 80 € but I don't need unnecessary expensive power supply because I don't use CF or SLI and I don't intend to, I only use 3 sata power connectors (SSD,HDD & Blu ray drive). Currently I'm using a P7P55D e-pro and AMD 6970 but I'm saving for MSI N770. I would like to build a quiet system & I'd like to have a modular psu since I don't use that much cables.

Corsair doesn't make anything they sell, they have OEM builders make them, and then they market them. Those power supplies you mentioned are not that good, and the wattage is very low for the specs of your system. I would counsel you to look at 550<.

The name brand on a psu doesn't matter, the OEM does!! Look up @shilka here on the OCN, he is the resident psu guru, he has reviews and tests of most the PSU's on the market!!!

Also, the power supply is the true heart of your system. If/when a psu dies, it can KILL any part of the computer it's attached to, so don't go cheap on them, save money somewhere else on the build, or save a bit more before you purchase!
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/19/14 at 10:46am
post #5915 of 7177
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

Corsair doesn't make anything they sell, they have OEM builders make them, and then they market them. Those power supplies you mentioned are not that good, and the wattage is very low for the specs of your system. I would counsel you to look at 550<.

The name brand on a psu doesn't matter, the OEM does!! Look up @shilka here on the OCN, he is the resident psu guru, he has reviews and tests of most the PSU's on the market!!!

Also, the power supply is the true heart of your system. If/when a psu dies, it can KILL any part of the computer it's attached to, so don't go cheap on them, save money somewhere else on the build, or save a bit more before you purchase!

I agree with a lot of what you said with the exception that I dont know much about the RM or CS series to comment on the performance/price ration BUT corsair does generally have good suppliers for their good psu's, grab one on sale and your good to go thumb.gif Such is the case with my ax850, seasonic made and got it 2-3 years ago on a killer sale from a local retailer, just remember the deal was too good to pass up. Before that I had a gs800 and of all places Best buy had it for 50% off which is made by CWT.

Overall your statements are accurate, but because of sales and such, corsair shouldn't be dismissed.
Edited by 66racer - 3/19/14 at 4:57pm
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post #5916 of 7177
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I agree with a lot of what you said with the exception that I dont know much about the RM or CS series to comment on the performance/price ration BUT corsair does generally have good suppliers for their good psu's, grab one on sale and your good to go thumb.gif Such is the case with my ax850, seasonic made and got it 2-3 years ago on a killer sale from a local retailer, just remember the deal was too good to pass up. Before that I had a gs800 and of all places Best buy had it for 50% off which is made by CWT.

Overall your statements are accurate, but because of sales and such, corsair shouldn't be dismissed.

I didn't say they should be dismissed, I would personally never buy a Corsair product unless it was being sold at a heavily discounted price personally. There are better products at better prices, obviously excluding some random sales etc. Heck, even the seasonic units that are matches to the corsairs are usually cheaper, with most corsair products, your buying a name, the extra money spent isn't due to the quality or performance of the item, it's the name. It's just irritating to me, but, that's just my 2cents.gif
post #5917 of 7177
Hi

I am trying to create a silent computer with this case and I wonder if anyone have managed to do this or can point me in the right direction.

The components I plan to use are:

Cpu: Intel Core i7 4770K 3,5GHz Socket 1150 Box
Cpu cooler: Noctua NH-U14S Slim 140mm Tower Cooler

Gpu: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Gaming
Gpu cooler: Prolimatech MK-26 Multi-VGA Cooler

Psu: Seasonic X-Series 750W or XFX Pro Series Black Edition 750W

Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5 mATX (reason for this it´s supposed good for handling sound)
SSD: Samsung SSD EVO Basic 840-Series 500GB
Storage: 2TB WD Green Intellipower 64MB
Ram: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CL10 1600MHz VENGEANCE LP


I am also planning to fit every inch of the case with sounddampening material and exchange the fan on the case to
a Phobya G-Silent Red LED fan.

Do you think its possible with the modifications of the case and the GPU/CPU cooler to get this quiet?

I am not 100 % sure everything fits a bit unsure regarding the coolers of they are to big or heavy.
If someone got a diffrent motherboards suggestion so shoot! My knowledge on this area is zero.
Reason for picking this is because it handle sound good and got wifi and its a fair price.
I don´t plan to overclock, but you newer know for sure.

I dont´t want to compromise on the power of this build. Reason for picking this case is because I like it´s design and look.
post #5918 of 7177
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Originally Posted by Silentpusher View Post

Hi

I am trying to create a silent computer with this case and I wonder if anyone have managed to do this or can point me in the right direction.

The components I plan to use are:

Cpu: Intel Core i7 4770K 3,5GHz Socket 1150 Box
Cpu cooler: Noctua NH-U14S Slim 140mm Tower Cooler

Gpu: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Gaming
Gpu cooler: Prolimatech MK-26 Multi-VGA Cooler

Psu: Seasonic X-Series 750W or XFX Pro Series Black Edition 750W

Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5 mATX (reason for this it´s supposed good for handling sound)
SSD: Samsung SSD EVO Basic 840-Series 500GB
Storage: 2TB WD Green Intellipower 64MB
Ram: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CL10 1600MHz VENGEANCE LP


I am also planning to fit every inch of the case with sounddampening material and exchange the fan on the case to
a Phobya G-Silent Red LED fan.

Do you think its possible with the modifications of the case and the GPU/CPU cooler to get this quiet?

I am not 100 % sure everything fits a bit unsure regarding the coolers of they are to big or heavy.
If someone got a diffrent motherboards suggestion so shoot! My knowledge on this area is zero.
Reason for picking this is because it handle sound good and got wifi and its a fair price.
I don´t plan to overclock, but you newer know for sure.

I dont´t want to compromise on the power of this build. Reason for picking this case is because I like it´s design and look.

Have you considered water?
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post #5919 of 7177
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Originally Posted by Silentpusher View Post

Hi

I am trying to create a silent computer with this case and I wonder if anyone have managed to do this or can point me in the right direction.

The components I plan to use are:

Cpu: Intel Core i7 4770K 3,5GHz Socket 1150 Box
Cpu cooler: Noctua NH-U14S Slim 140mm Tower Cooler

Gpu: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Gaming
Gpu cooler: Prolimatech MK-26 Multi-VGA Cooler

Psu: Seasonic X-Series 750W or XFX Pro Series Black Edition 750W

Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5 mATX (reason for this it´s supposed good for handling sound)
SSD: Samsung SSD EVO Basic 840-Series 500GB
Storage: 2TB WD Green Intellipower 64MB
Ram: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) CL10 1600MHz VENGEANCE LP


I am also planning to fit every inch of the case with sounddampening material and exchange the fan on the case to
a Phobya G-Silent Red LED fan.

Do you think its possible with the modifications of the case and the GPU/CPU cooler to get this quiet?

I am not 100 % sure everything fits a bit unsure regarding the coolers of they are to big or heavy.
If someone got a diffrent motherboards suggestion so shoot! My knowledge on this area is zero.
Reason for picking this is because it handle sound good and got wifi and its a fair price.
I don´t plan to overclock, but you newer know for sure.

I dont´t want to compromise on the power of this build. Reason for picking this case is because I like it´s design and look.
I think water would be your best option. To have this be "silent" you going to want to replace the front fan with an AP182, and run it off a fan controller.
post #5920 of 7177
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Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M5 mATX (reason for this it´s supposed good for handling sound)
The case itself is pretty good and can handle the hardware you are chosing, the only thing i would change is the motherboard, I feel as many others that are persuing building a quiet setup, that the frontal fan is the loudest part of it, so it requieres massive undervolting, i used to run mine around 460rpms on idle where is quiet (not silent but very quiet), some have opted for aftermarket fans, personally i prefer the AP181, one of the strenghths of the case is the cooling capablity. My suggesion is dont buy anything else than the hardware you posted, and tested it, work from there if you really need a cooler like prolimatech mk26, or if you need to change the frontal fan... and so on.

That said, i think for this case specially the Asus Maximus VI Gene is a better option, specially becuase it brings FanXpert2, that should help you undervolt the frontal fan or even the Phobia later on if you decide to change it. And all the motherboards including the Asus and Gigabyte use the same Realtek codec 1150, they just vary on the software and the caps they use, but overall its still an integrated sound card, so dont expect magic for any.

On the CPU cooler, while i think its a great cooler the U14S, you should try to search the thread to see if it wont reach the first 16x PCIe, my guess is as with my HR02 Macho it will be very close but you will have a couple of mm of margin, but never hurts to really cross check this.

On the Prolimatech Mk26, is today the best air aftermarket cooler, but i wouldn't rush to it, the MSI GTX780ti is one of the quietest high end gpus available, so i would test it as it comes and see if you really need more cooling.

I would add a back fan though, a Noctua NF-S12A PWM would be my pick, as it has a very good range of operation, similar to the NF-A15 PWm that comes with the U14S, so i would connect the NF-A15 on the CPU_FAN and the NF-S12A PWM to the CPU_OPT, which is the same header, but it will report individually to AI SUITE III / FanXpert2.

Overall i do agree with the two above poster, that water might end up quieter if you do overclock heavy, the problem is that the 4770K is a hot running CPU, so really comes down into how much you going to overclock, if you are staying stock.... then i would go air.
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