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The case itself is pretty good and can handle the hardware you are chosing, the only thing i would change is the motherboard, I feel as many others that are persuing building a quiet setup, that the frontal fan is the loudest part of it, so it requieres massive undervolting, i used to run mine around 460rpms on idle where is quiet (not silent but very quiet), some have opted for aftermarket fans, personally i prefer the AP181, one of the strenghths of the case is the cooling capablity. My suggesion is dont buy anything else than the hardware you posted, and tested it, work from there if you really need a cooler like prolimatech mk26, or if you need to change the frontal fan... and so on.

That said, i think for this case specially the Asus Maximus VI Gene is a better option, specially becuase it brings FanXpert2, that should help you undervolt the frontal fan or even the Phobia later on if you decide to change it. And all the motherboards including the Asus and Gigabyte use the same Realtek codec 1150, they just vary on the software and the caps they use, but overall its still an integrated sound card, so dont expect magic for any.

On the CPU cooler, while i think its a great cooler the U14S, you should try to search the thread to see if it wont reach the first 16x PCIe, my guess is as with my HR02 Macho it will be very close but you will have a couple of mm of margin, but never hurts to really cross check this.

On the Prolimatech Mk26, is today the best air aftermarket cooler, but i wouldn't rush to it, the MSI GTX780ti is one of the quietest high end gpus available, so i would test it as it comes and see if you really need more cooling.

I would add a back fan though, a Noctua NF-S12A PWM would be my pick, as it has a very good range of operation, similar to the NF-A15 PWm that comes with the U14S, so i would connect the NF-A15 on the CPU_FAN and the NF-S12A PWM to the CPU_OPT, which is the same header, but it will report individually to AI SUITE III / FanXpert2.

Overall i do agree with the two above poster, that water might end up quieter if you do overclock heavy, the problem is that the 4770K is a hot running CPU, so really comes down into how much you going to overclock, if you are staying stock.... then i would go air.


I´ll make the switch from Sniper to the Asus motherboard as you suggest.
Of course the best choice would to get the parts to the computer and assemble it and then do minor exchanges until I get what I want (silence) But because it was so long ago, I built a computer so I will not do that this time.

I am planning to buy the parts form a store that also assemble it for you, with the modifictations I decide.
So that is why I am opting to exchange fans and coolers before I have even tried them out.
Money is not a problem as I use it for my work that is poker and I feel its a good investment to do. So I want it to be quiet from the get go, so I don´t get so much downtime from working.

So thats why I need to know if it will be quiet before I buy it smile.gif I would start crying if I asked them to build it and when it arrives it will be noisy!
But I guess thats what I get for being a noob and not able to fix it my self haha...
post #5922 of 7172
There is a delay in europe at least for side panels, the guy at Silverstone said they should be shipping next week.
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I am planning to buy the parts form a store that also assemble it for you, with the modifictations I decide.
So that is why I am opting to exchange fans and coolers before I have even tried them out.
I see, but remember things are not as simple as they seem, complictions arrive as no setup can be fully planed, things have to be workend out or exchange depending on the needs, things that you dont expect will rise and you will have to deal with them..

For example, my GTX780 (reference card) had an issue with the PWM design, the way that nvidia design the card, made it so neither the Artic fans on the Accelero III could be controlled efectivly with the pwm 4pin on the GTX780, you could control them but it lost the rpm singnal ever second or so, and ramp the fan up and down, there is a thread where you can see im not the only one, Arctic Cooling Accelero Extreme III installation on GTX780, my solution was to avoid the 4pin pwm on the GPU and use the included molex adapter (it can be plugged as 12V or 7V), i plugged into 7V and its working great, very quiet, but i lost the ability to controll it dinamically, still the cooler is so good that i dont pass 60C on gaming, then again my games are not that demanding, but i have stress it wtih furmark and hasn't passed 65C,. At some point when the accelero didn't work out, i had a friend that had MK-26 so i ask him to borrow me a Prolimatech 140mm Slim vortex and the adapter that allows the fan to be plugged to the GTX780, here it was worst, there is no way of controlling the fans, the gpu powers it as 12V at full rpms, i tested a noctua fan but was the same aswell, not sure if the prolimatech pwm adapter had different wiring than how the card is wired but the outcome was it was not controllable. Also recommended your check Prolimatech Mk-26 problem with gtx 780. All of the above was done with a reference card, in not sure how it would be with a factory cooler card, im sure manufacturers realized the issue with the card and maybe they already address it in their vbios or with a different design, there are even custom pcb that change the hole card, but i have not tested any of this cards, i can only offer you my experience with the reference card and custom coolers. So this is the main reason, i suggested you tested MSI first, before even comitting to the Prolimatech, then again you could go with 3pin fans that are quiet and lose the dynamic control (like with my accelero) and still should be very good, the massiveness of the cooler makes it super effective, for example Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120 mm D1225C12B1AP-11, again this all have to be trouble shooted once you build.

On the CPU cooler + Prolimatech.... when i installed the accelero III it touched out of the the screws sticking on the back of the gpu to my Thermalright hr02, this lays extra weight on the cpu socket, weather its harmful or not i cant say, but this is something that you will have to cross check with the Noctua NH-U14S, if you look into iamdjango build post #5264 and also couple of posts below, he confirms the Prolimatech MK-26 screws sticks out and does touch the Phantek PH-TC14PE, he likes as it also allows the card pcb and soldering not to touch the heatsink, but again extra weight on the cpu socket, its up to you. But at the end it seems to work out well for him, so you could go this route as well, or contact him to see after some months if all is working good still.

Either way, i still feel its better to test the hardware first and go baby steps fixing whatever you feel its not quiet enough to your liking, but i can understand your situaion aswell. Good luck, hope it turns out ok. Btw if you go with asus tell the tecnictian that builds it to install the frontal fan (AP181) on a CHA_FAN header and to install also AI SUITE III / FanXpert2, to run the tunning, and then test it.
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post #5924 of 7172
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I´ll make the switch from Sniper to the Asus motherboard as you suggest.
Of course the best choice would to get the parts to the computer and assemble it and then do minor exchanges until I get what I want (silence) But because it was so long ago, I built a computer so I will not do that this time.

I am planning to buy the parts form a store that also assemble it for you, with the modifictations I decide.
So that is why I am opting to exchange fans and coolers before I have even tried them out.
Money is not a problem as I use it for my work that is poker and I feel its a good investment to do. So I want it to be quiet from the get go, so I don´t get so much downtime from working.

So thats why I need to know if it will be quiet before I buy it smile.gif I would start crying if I asked them to build it and when it arrives it will be noisy!
But I guess thats what I get for being a noob and not able to fix it my self haha...

Water-cool if that's the case you will be a silent killer! #trust!!!!!!!!
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post #5925 of 7172
Good day! I got my PS07 a few days ago to replace my Arc Mini.

It is just a basic all-around entertainment station to play some MMOs on and watch some movies.



I have encountered a small problem though. It has only been 5 days since I built this but it is already very dusty inside, particularly on the floor of the case and on top of the HDD, I am not sure if the front filter is actually doing anything. I checked the front filter and it has caught of few strands of cat hair, but aside from that, it is very clean.
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post #5926 of 7172
baconbriefs,

I don't know what to tell you. I've had mine for 6 - 9 months and have no problem like that. The filters capture (estimating here) 85% or better. I actually just opened the case for the first time in a month or more and blew it out with canned air. The buildup was minimal. Did you install a rear exhaust fan? That could be keeping you from maintaining positive pressure in the case and contributing to the dust.

A good lookin build in the image and very respectable system specs overall.

Stu
post #5927 of 7172
All,

I'm considering getting a second EVGA 780 and running SLI.

I've heard that, in this case, the upper card can kind of get hot with minimal airflow though.

I was wondering if anyone has seen some kind of blower that will fit in one or both of my two unused 5.25 bays? I've looked pretty thoroughly for a solution and only found some sub-par junk mostly. I've seen an image on here of someone who tilted a roughly 120mm fan just inside those bays but never saw what was going on on the face. I guess I could cut some slits in the 5.25 covers and line the inside with speaker cloth to act as a dust filter.

Anyone know of a solution for me?

Thanks,
Stewrt
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All,

I'm considering getting a second EVGA 780 and running SLI.

I've heard that, in this case, the upper card can kind of get hot with minimal airflow though.

I was wondering if anyone has seen some kind of blower that will fit in one or both of my two unused 5.25 bays? I've looked pretty thoroughly for a solution and only found some sub-par junk mostly. I've seen an image on here of someone who tilted a roughly 120mm fan just inside those bays but never saw what was going on on the face. I guess I could cut some slits in the 5.25 covers and line the inside with speaker cloth to act as a dust filter.

Anyone know of a solution for me?

Thanks,
Stewrt

It's going to get very hot inside your case even with an additional fans blowing towards your SLI setup. The space between the 2 cards just isn't enough airflow to cool both cards efficiently. The best case scenario for an SLI/CrossfireX in this case truly is water cooling.
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post #5929 of 7172
hyp36rmax,

Thanks, Guess this means I'll have to spring for the 780 Ti or the next monster card that Nvidia comes out with. I'm not gonna do water cooling. Failed pumps, water leaking on electronics, having to rip everything apart and route a bunch of stuff. Just not up for it.
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hyp36rmax,

Thanks, Guess this means I'll have to spring for the 780 Ti or the next monster card that Nvidia comes out with. I'm not gonna do water cooling. Failed pumps, water leaking on electronics, having to rip everything apart and route a bunch of stuff. Just not up for it.

If you use quality parts and have even half a brain, then it's not an issue!
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