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Maybe not the best example as I just have a low end Xonar DG. I had no game stopper type glitches. The few issues I saw with it were few and far between.

An occasional explosion across the map would sound much closer than I though it should have sometimes masking closer up sounds that I felt it shouldn't have. This was by far my biggest peeve with the DG and really it was pretty minor as it wasn't a constant issue.

A few times I had trouble telling where someone was behind me. Behind me to the left or right or directly behind me sometimes would all sound the same. Then a couple times someone walking back and forth above and to the my left behind me would just sound like they were were going from directly to my left to directly behind me.

I did pretty much just randomly mess with settings in the Xonar interface as well as adjust settings in ini and in game. The few issues I had I was able to lessen to some degree and who knows maybe if I would have spent more time with it or better followed someone elses setup I might have been able to completely get rid of them. IDK.

Like I said though, these weren't constant issues or show stoppers in any way. Few and far between really and in the grand scheme of things I was very satisfied with the DG and would still be using it if I hadn't covered up my PCI slots by going SLI.

@ OP I don't think it would be worth it getting another soundcard just for BC2 as long as you are otherwise completely happy with your Xonar. Any BC2 problems are pretty minor and differences switching to the Titanium vanilla for me were more subtle. There wasn't any OMG what a huge difference moments. LOL.
Edited by ~sizzzle~ - 7/19/11 at 8:34am
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post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
An occasional explosion across the map would sound much closer than I though it should have sometimes masking closer up sounds that I felt it shouldn't have. This was by far my biggest peeve with the DG and really it was pretty minor as it wasn't a constant issue.

A few times I had trouble telling where someone was behind me. Behind me to the left or right or directly behind me sometimes would all sound the same. Then a couple times someone walking back and forth above and to the my left behind me would just sound like they were were going from directly to my left to directly behind me.

@ OP I don't think it would be worth it getting another soundcard just for BC2 as long as you are otherwise completely happy with your Xonar.
I notice those, but I'm having constant trouble with footsteps/shots behind me. It gets frustrating.

And @last statement, I figured so

Going to go mess with the settings some more.
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I found the reverb settings (UI is different with UNi), and it was off.

I tried out just about all of the possible DSP options, and I think I'm going to stick with 2CH, no FX and just watch my back more. In game, Dolby Headphone seems to add some small reverb and a small doubled/slapback echo, both of which are intensified by the Virtual 7.1 Shifter. Changing from War Tapes to Home Cinema helped (reverb cut considerably), but not enough to justify switching from 2-channel.
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I just got a Xonar DX for my AsRock z68 extreme 4 and 2500k. My music and other audio is great when I have my speakers on (2ch rear analog). When I change the setting over to FP headphone it sounds like complete ass! It doesn't matter what other setting I have enabled, GX, HiFi, game, music, Dolby headphone... It all sounds horrible from the headphones! It sounds overly muffled, all the sounds are either very distorted and echo and some sounds are missing all together.

I am playing an audio track in 320kbps and there is a huge difference between the speakers and the headphones.

The headphones are brand new (had them less than 24hrs) JVC RX700s.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I've tried everything I could think off, including reinstalling the drivers and also the unified drivers.
 
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just an update to my above post:

The headphones sound great when they are plugged into the rear sound port. like phenomenal. like amazing... (not just in BFBC2)

now i just need to figure out *** is up with my Front Panel audio....
 
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now i just need to figure out *** is up with my Front Panel audio....
Front panel audio cables can pick up a lot of interference.
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I don't think anyone will realize there's a problem with Asus cards in BC2 until they've either tried an X-Fi card side-by-side or was competitive originally in BC2 with an X-Fi. I don't feel like I can take the same type of risks with an Asus card as I can with my X-Fi Titanium HD. My sense of hearing becomes impaired. If you see me go 55:9 with an Ace pin at the end of a rush round while playing assault or engineer, then I'm using the X-Fi. If I'm 16:9 or so, then I'm most likely playing with the Asus card (see: half-deaf).

The way I see it:

Scenario 1: If you came from onboard, the Asus card will be an improvement in clarity and positioning. Your idea of positioning in BC2 will be "fine."

Scenario 2: If you came from Asus to an X-Fi, the X-Fi's capabilities won't be very noticeable but they are there. You don't really know that you're missing anything with the Asus card until scenario 3.

Scenario 3: If you're going from playing competitively (achieving Ace pins round after round) on an X-Fi to trying to do the same with an Asus card, you'll start feeling like sounds are missing or just aren't playing back. You can start to clearly see people firing their gun but you won't hear it. Enemy chatter will also be somewhat lacking in direction. You'll not be able to notice footsteps like you were able to on the X-Fi. The Asus card prioritizes the sounds of explosions and other things over details like gunshots and enemy chatter.
I think that pretty much sums it up.

I have played BC2 with the following cards that I have owned: Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic, Asus Xonar D1, X-Fi Titanium HD and Xonar Essence STX.

In this order:
XtremeMusic was first.
Xonar D1 came along and I ran both cards together.
Replaced XtremeMusic and D1 with Titanium HD.
Obtained Essence STX and realized that it has the same problem as the D1 in BC2.
Edited by RallyMaster - 7/24/11 at 7:21pm
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RallyMaster:
Did you use CMSS3D/macrofx/elevationfilter or Dolby Headphone for those impressions? I'm debating about trying an X-Fi again now that BF3's on the horizon. I can use all the cheat...er...helping ears I can get.
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RallyMaster:
Did you use CMSS3D/macrofx/elevationfilter or Dolby Headphone for those impressions? I'm debating about trying an X-Fi again now that BF3's on the horizon. I can use all the cheat...er...helping ears I can get.
I did use Dolby Headphone on my STX for a bit and found that to be absolutely horrible. Echo was bad, some sounds were louder than others and just overall sounded wrong. Also, the missing sounds were still missing. You can't improve positioning by adding DSP effects when the sounds aren't being played in the first place.

I haven't used the STX for BF3 Conquest yet but I did notice less of a difference between the two cards than in BC2, where the STX was clearly having sound cut in and out depending on what was going on.
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I sold a Forte awhile back cause I really prefer the quality improvement of DH over CMSS3D, which tends to veil everything. Although it sounds better IMO, they're not all there, lol...at least in BC2. Positional cues did suffer.

I'm going to see if BB has any of the leftover $50 Tit HD's today. If not, I'll probably just wait it out til the game comes out and see what happens.
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