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Notice I posted a C300 128GB score and still in that review you see the Vertex 3 MI got beaten in the 4K read which is the most important benchmark in IOPS.
NVM, I educated myself. Sure, the C300 can read 4k files faster. But the Vertex is still no slouch. However, how many 4k files does a person actually use at once? Just for the sake of the argument, let's say Windows 7 loads 10,000 4k files during boot. That's 40MB. So it takes the C300 ~1.5 secs and it takes the Vertex ~2 secs. BIG difference there.

Now let's move a 10GB blu-ray movie.... Getting the picture?

"Real world" performance is a balance of both. Personally I'd rather lose a few milliseconds on small files and save many seconds on large files.

Now let's look at access times:



Sure, the C300 may move small files faster, but it takes a lot longer to access them. Especially for writing!

I'll stick with Vertex regardless of what the "popular" vote may or may not be.
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The above test looks a bit unfair as it's comparing a Vertex Max IOPS "240GB" with a Crucial C300 "128GB"; plus it's the older Crucial drive, I'd like to see it compared with a Crucial M4 256GB or alternatively a comparison between 120GB/128GB.

It looks like different drives perform *slightly* better in different circumstances. If you are constantly writing very large files then the Vertex 3 performs better (and perhaps other similar Sandforce drives) but if your drive is mainly used for booting up, accessing applications, internet and smaller files then it's the M4?

Reliability is also a factor.
Edited by qadri - 7/19/11 at 5:39am
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The above test looks a bit unfair as it's comparing a Vertex "240GB" Max IOPS with a Crucial C300 "128GB"; plus it's the older Crucial drive, I'd like to see it compared with a Crucial M4 256GB or alternatively a comparison between 120GB/128GB.

It looks like different drives perform *slightly* better in different circumstances. If you are constantly writing very large files then the Vertex 3 performs better (and perhaps other similar Sandforce drives) but if you drive is mainly used for booting up, accessing applications, internet and smaller files then it's the M4?

Reliability is also a factor.
I agree. If it makes you feel better you can compare the Vertex 2 100GB to the C300.

The reason why the Vertex is being compared to the C300 is because of a post a couple of pages back in regards to the C300. You read the end of a series of posts.

In any case, I stay with Vertex 3 of any size. But if I had to choose an alternate I'd go for Intel 510.

It's a balance of all factors which provides the best real world performance, not super good in one area and bad in another. Vertex offers super sequential speeds while still offering good 4k speeds and great access time. IMO it offers the best real world balance.
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NVM, I educated myself. Sure, the C300 can read 4k files faster. But the Vertex is still no slouch. However, how many 4k files does a person actually use at once? Just for the sake of the argument, let's say Windows 7 loads 10,000 4k files during boot. That's 40MB. So it takes the C300 ~1.5 secs and it takes the Vertex ~2 secs. BIG difference there.

Now let's move a 10GB blu-ray movie.... Getting the picture?

"Real world" performance is a balance of both. Personally I'd rather lose a few milliseconds on small files and save many seconds on large files.

Now let's look at access times:



Sure, the C300 may move small files faster, but it takes a lot longer to access them. Especially for writing!

I'll stick with Vertex regardless of what the "popular" vote may or may not be.
shouldn't you be comparing the crucial c300 256gb? the write performance is 2x slower on the 128gb model. and even more slow on the 64gb.

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Just for the sake of the argument, let's say Windows 7 loads 10,000 4k files during boot. That's 40MB. So it takes the C300 ~1.5 secs and it takes the Vertex ~2 secs. BIG difference there.
it's not that big of a difference. and neither is the .1 milliseconds of difference in access time from the chart you post it. i'm not factoring in the write access since the write performance is not the same as the bigger 256gb version.

speed aside, the failure rate of a ocz is ALOT higher than crucial. i definitely seen more threads made about ocz bsod, locking up, can't be found in bios, etc. than any crucial c300. for argument sake
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any of the two below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167042

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148348

Mine is neither of the two brands but came with an enclosure, adapter 2.5/3.5 , and Acronis software (bootable), which made everything painless.
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shouldn't you be comparing the crucial c300 256gb? the write performance is 2x slower on the 128gb model. and even more slow on the 64gb.
If you had read more than the last post you would know why it wasn't the 256GB version being compared....



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it's not that big of a difference. and neither is the .1 milliseconds of difference in access time from the chart you post it. i'm not factoring in the write access since the write performance is not the same as the bigger 256gb version.

speed aside, the failure rate of a ocz is ALOT higher than crucial. i definitely seen more threads made about ocz bsod, locking up, can't be found in bios, etc. than any crucial c300. for argument sake
You're right, it's not that big of a difference. Nor is the ".6" ms difference in the write speed...

I blame a lot of the problems anyone has been having on any number of things. Poor choices in components. Old components. Hacked operating systems and/or viruses, not knowing how to follow instructions and/or upgrade firmware... Probably a few other things that escape me. Mine has had 0 issues.

Get what you want. I never said that the Vertex was the absolute best choice for everyone. At the end of the day any SSD is still not a HDD. The Vertex is however the best choice for me.
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I have had no problems with my Vertex 3 Max Iops 120GB and I'm running it on a SATA2 controller. It's a tough choice between the Vertex3 and C300.
     
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What do you guys think of this Plextor SSD?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820249010

From what I understand, Plextor makes good stuff usually, and it's cheaper than the other 128GB SSDs.
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What do you guys think of this Plextor SSD?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820249010

From what I understand, Plextor makes good stuff usually, and it's cheaper than the other 128GB SSDs.
Seems pretty reliable. I wonder what controller are they using for their SSDs? Looks like the same controller as Crucial M4 and Intel 510 SSDs judging by those speeds.
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