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Hello,
I'm planning to build a desktop with 1TB single drive for storage and 2x250GB in RAID0

the RAID0 I'd like to partition it in about 70GB for the OS and the rest for "temp usage".

- will partition the array use the outer and thus faster part of BOTH the disks?
- I'll try to never use the rest of the disk for daily usage but I do a lot video editing and the RAID0 setup is the main reason I did this and accessing the data with that speed. Now if use for instance adobe premiere with the app being on first partition and the videos being on the second partition will this slow down everything and make it worse than if the videos were on the other non-raid disk? will it be still better? will it be like having the OS+temp storage without partition?
What -I think- is that it won't slow down things that much because during editing or encoding it's not like the first partition is accessed that much since the app will be accessed from the ram mainly.

thank you
post #2 of 11
Making a smaller partition for faster performance is called short-stroking. The first partition is always going to be on the outer edge of the drive.

Here are my results from short-stroking two WD caviar blue 500GB HDDs:


Yeah, when loading the files, I don't think the program will be also trying to read and write to the HDD.
Edited by TEntel - 7/17/11 at 5:07pm
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Perhaps you should benchmark all your drives first with HDTune, before deciding which to toss your OS on.

Drives have come a long way since 250GB capacities.
     
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post #4 of 11
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thank you,
I'm just worried that I could get a worse performance than having the files on a single standalone disk.
I have another question, theoretically if you put 3 or more disks with that performance in RAID0 you will exceed the SATA2 300MB/s limit. Does this count for the total speed of the raid0 or the interface limit is just per disk?
If not what's the controller that handles and (could) limits the max speed of the total RAID array?
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Kramy View Post
Perhaps you should benchmark all your drives first with HDTune, before deciding which to toss your OS on.

Drives have come a long way since 250GB capacities.
I chose 250GB because that space will be just used for OS,apps and files where I need speed. I won't put data on RAID0, that's why I'll use a single 1TB disk. Bad idea?
post #6 of 11
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thank you,
I'm just worried that I could get a worse performance than having the files on a single standalone disk.
I have another question, theoretically if you put 3 or more disks with that performance in RAID0 you will exceed the SATA2 300MB/s limit. Does this count for the total speed of the raid0 or the interface limit is just per disk?
If not what's the controller that handles and (could) limits the max speed of the total RAID array?
The SATA2 300MB/sec limit is per-port.

I have no idea what your SATA controller supports. We need to know your motherboard model to find out.

Most boards support at least 400MB/sec.

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Originally Posted by -sandro- View Post
I chose 250GB because that space will be just used for OS,apps and files where I need speed. I won't put data on RAID0, that's why I'll use a single 1TB disk. Bad idea?
Don't know without benchmarking them. My old 250GB drives are half as fast as new drives, so 2xRAID-0 with them would be pointless.
     
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post #7 of 11
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My mobo is Asrock P67 Pro.

The 2 250GB HDD are the samsung spinpoint f3. They come from the same series of the bigger models of >1TB that seem to be very acclaimed for speed. Why would the 250gb model be slower?
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They come from the same series of the bigger models of >1TB that seem to be very acclaimed for speed. Why would the 250gb model be slower?
Platter size. If they're using 250GB platters rather than 500GB+ platters, the data is half as dense, and thus the speed is half as fast.

You must benchmark them with HDTune to find out.
     
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post #9 of 11
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I don't have them yet. From what I've seen from other people's benchmarks (there aren't so many of the 250gb ones) the speeds are the same as the 500/1000GB with a 2-4MB/s decrease in general
post #10 of 11
If you can get a great price on 320GB F4's, look into them.

Aside from that... I'd probably stick with 1TB F3's unless you get a great deal. You're going to get a lot more speed out of two short-stroked 1TB F3's. If you can get them on sale for $50, they're only a tad more expensive than smaller drives.
     
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