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Hello all! With all of the new games like BF3 and Elder Scrolls V coming out that practically require quad core processors, my 3 year old system is starting to show her age. The time has come for a total overhaul, Enterprise-B style. Replacing everything but the monitor, drives and case she'll basically be a new machine. What I have here is the parts list I've arrived at after a few days of review reading and looking up terms on wikipedia as well as this site. I feel pretty confident, but I want to have the thumbs up from the pros first, as this will be my first truly solo build.

OK, re-did the list. I compared the stats of the cards I was looking at, and decided to go with the 6870. Went for a cheaper PSU, and went for the cheaper RAM as suggested. By $500 being the most I can do, I mean the most, even with rebates.


Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - $99.99

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX - $119.99

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - $174.99

PSU: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - $69.99

RAM: G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS - $31.99

Subtotal: $496.95

Anything wrong here? I'm pretty sure this is the biggest bang for my broke college student buck, and free of any compatability issues, but again, I just want to be sure! Any suggestions would be most appreciated!
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If you can stretch your budget a little the following combo is worth a look:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.691364
for about $50 more you get a 990X mobo with better dual-GPU support and twice as much memory and faster memory speeds.

You can usually fine 1600MHZ memory for about the same price as 1333. May as well go for the better speed stuff. (it will give you more headroom for overclocking)
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
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A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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logitec M235 
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I would take advantage of this deal immediately, then you can get a better video card.

Basically, if you buy any Phenom II AM3 CPU from Micro Center, you get a free motherboard.

http://www.microcenter.com/specials/...ndlePROMO.html
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This power supply is a better deal at around that wattage point (yes it is a very good quality unit, ask any OCN PSU guru)
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
This power supply is a better deal at around that wattage point (yes it is a very good quality unit, ask any OCN PSU guru)
I was looking at that one and stumbled upon this one. Might as well go for the bronze 80+!

OCN makes good stuff; I have two of their 2GB DDR2 RAM sticks. Shame they're dropping that side of their product line.



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Originally Posted by mdocod View Post
If you can stretch your budget a little the following combo is worth a look:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.691364
for about $50 more you get a 990X mobo with better dual-GPU support and twice as much memory and faster memory speeds.

You can usually fine 1600MHZ memory for about the same price as 1333. May as well go for the better speed stuff. (it will give you more headroom for overclocking)

That looks perfect, but just a bit out of my reach... Is there something between the one I posted and that one still with the series 9 chipset? I don't plan on a dual card setup, at least in the immediate future, but I am looking for something with easy overclock tools.
Edited by Armchairwarrior - 7/18/11 at 9:23am
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Wow, that on sale Antec Earthwatts Green looks like a great deal

By the way you can get this motherboard for less at superbiiz. Buy it with the RAM kit in that combo (individually) and you can get a lower price of $141 for the two.
Edited by xd_1771 - 7/18/11 at 12:18pm
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Thread Starter 
I'm starting to narrow things down... I the only grey areas are the motherboard and GPU.

If there a significant difference in performance between the m5A97 I posted and the m5a99 mdocod recommended? I don't plan on doing a double card setup, so more/less pci 16 slots aren't as important.

As for the GPU, it was between the HD 6870 and the 460 GTX. While the 6870 out performs the 460 out of the box, I've read it has less room to overclock before you need intnse aftermarket cooling. Can a superclocked 460 GTX overtake an overclocked 6870?
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Can a superclocked 460 GTX overtake an overclocked 6870?
It just depends on how much the over-clocks are. The GTX460 and 6870 share the exact same number of ROPs and Texture mapping units. If you clock a GTX460 to 900MHZ core and 1050MHZ memory you should have cards that perform nearly the same. Problem is, the 6870 comes stock at 900MHZ, the GTX460 needs a 33% over-clock to get to 900MHZ. If I had to take a guess, the amount of headroom in a GTX460 ABOVE 900MHZ probably isn't likely to be better than the headroom in the 6870, but I could be wrong.

If I had to choose between an HD6870@$175 or a GTX460-1GB@$160, I would say that both of those price points are remarkably fair and I would be perfectly happy to go either way...

On the other hand.... when you can buy recertified GTX460s for about $110, the whole picture changes. You have to make a decision on how much risk tolerance you have. The cheap recert units, (or "B-stock" units on evga.com) are easily the best bang for the buck, but only come with a 90 day warranty.

Swap the memory and PSU in the build plan for the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371044 (saves you $10)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231427 (promo code makes this just $35, easily worth it.)

Since you don't intend on going dual GPU, the Asus you have selected is perfect. In fact, it's a great deal for such an impressive mobo. Go for it.

Best of luck!

Eric
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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