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All the new "motion smoothing" settings, 120 hz, ect. look like HOT GARBAGE. The take a beautiful film and make it look like you're watching the latest episode of Days of Our Lives.

You have to turn all that crap off to get a decent image on an LCD, and then you're back to the same old motion blurring inherent with the tech, and usually a lackluster black level.

Plasma you get much deeper blacks, especially at a budget price level. Much better motion handling without any gimmicky motion smoother garbage. Overall PQ is just better until you step into the LED's w/ local dimming, and even then plasma still wins.

The two knocks to plasma are image retention and having a glass screen/glare. For image retention, I have my pixel orbiter on and I have never seen any sort of retention ever. Even after numerous hours of black bars on the screen, nothing. I even read about a torture test where they left a static image up for 2 WEEKS and were still able to get the TV back to normal. The glare issue is sort of a moot point these days, as most LCD makers are putting glossy screens on front. The matte screen is the only thing I miss about my old LCD, other than that Plasma blows it out of the water.



Buy [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P46ST30-46-Inch-Plasma/dp/B004M8SCHO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1311006927&sr=8-6"]THIS[/ame] ONE and thank me later. wink.gif
Edited by Foolsmasher - 7/18/11 at 9:37am
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^ plasmas in a nut shell..mine has an anti glare screen that works wonders
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Originally Posted by yoyo711 View Post
LG and SAMSUNG MAKE GOOD tv but you need to get the extended warranty tho....


Good luck with the tv and have a fun
Yeah but from who exactly? Does Amazon offer their own extended warranty?

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As long as you hide your taskbar and have a clean desktop that changes every 2-3 minutes you'll be fine. I've owned 2 different plasmas in the last 3 years and I have never had a problem with image retention. As far as the models I don't know at the moment. Ill take the time to post links on the models as soon as i get home. I'm aware of looking at the native res but trust me when I say they lie. All the tvs I purchased said native 1920x1080p res which they weren't.

In my experience plasmas are vastly superior in picture quality involving deeper blacks and wider range of colors than any lcd I have ever seen
That's simple enough.. but if I play tons of games with HUDS that I will never hide for functionality.. wouldn't that just be a problem?

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I have the lesser model of that LG, i think, still 47inch but only 60Hz. I use it mostly for console and watching telly and looks good. I've started using it for my rig as i don't have a monitor atm and games don't seem any less good looking.
Nice to know Thanks for the input.

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All the new "motion smoothing" settings, 120 hz, ect. look like HOT GARBAGE. The take a beautiful film and make it look like you're watching the latest episode of Days of Our Lives.

You have to turn all that crap off to get a decent image on an LCD, and then you're back to the same old motion blurring inherent with the tech, and usually a lackluster black level.

Plasma you get much deeper blacks, especially at a budget price level. Much better motion handling without any gimmicky motion smoother garbage. Overall PQ is just better until you step into the LED's w/ local dimming, and even then plasma still wins.

The two knocks to plasma are image retention and having a glass screen/glare. For image retention, I have my pixel orbiter on and I have never seen any sort of retention ever. Even after numerous hours of black bars on the screen, nothing. I even read about a torture test where they left a static image up for 2 WEEKS and were still able to get the TV back to normal. The glare issue is sort of a moot point these days, as most LCD makers are putting glossy screens on front. The matte screen is the only thing I miss about my old LCD, other than that Plasma blows it out of the water.



Buy THIS ONE and thank me later.
I guess that's subjective. but I do hear that forcing interpolated frames via these 120Hz and up do cause artifacting.. still, I do like the effect

What is a pixel orbiter? Does the LK520s have em? I heard Sammys have some sort of pixel shift and you have to set all plasmas not to display ANY blacks for the Break in time.. A hassle much? But I guess it's cheaper..

As far as electricity goes.. aren't plasmas at least twice as energy hungry? Anyone calculated the bills for that?

The TV we're getting will be in a bright room.. we don't watch stuff in the dark unless it's in the theatres. Why would you? Isn't it bad for the eyes?

HEY! I have been eyeing that thing for a while.. Seriously.. I would love more reassurance with those retention

Freaking confusing.. I wish I was a son of a middle class family so I can easily afford wasting stuff on TVs! (year 1 buy LCD, Year 3 buy Plasma).
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I play starcraft 2 all the time and never had a problem with hud retention. Somewhere on the box it it says it uses $12 more a year than an lcd. You already have 2 people telling you image retention isn't a issue what more do you want . heres a little info. hope it help u on your quest!

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...tv-burnin.html
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I play starcraft 2 all the time and never had a problem with hud retention. Somewhere on the box it it says it uses $12 more a year than an lcd. You already have 2 people telling you image retention isn't a issue what more do you want . heres a little info. hope it help u on your quest!

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...tv-burnin.html
Thank you! xD Ill read it later.. might have to go soon..

BTW +rep to all.. every bittle helps

lol just 2 posters? That's not too reassuring xD

(If only this was the GPU/CPU section, it'd be so easy to get more opinions with backings)..

Still thanks a loT! and oh yeah.. The quest goes on!~

EDIT: Wow, that's a lot of consideration for a plasma.

200 hours for a break in?



That seems much time to give me a chance for a return/exchange? Or a proper evaluation of a product before I return/exchange?

So LCD has almost none of this problem but a sub par PQ? That only videophiles would really be nitpicking about?

Still, I am open for debate. I doubt I'd be making a purchase today.
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Thank you! xD Ill read it later.. might have to go soon..

BTW +rep to all.. every bittle helps

lol just 2 posters? That's not too reassuring xD

(If only this was the GPU/CPU section, it'd be so easy to get more opinions with backings)..

Still thanks a loT! and oh yeah.. The quest goes on!~

EDIT: Wow, that's a lot of consideration for a plasma.

200 hours for a break in?



That seems much time to give me a chance for a return/exchange? Or a proper evaluation of a product before I return/exchange?

So LCD has almost none of this problem but a sub par PQ? That only videophiles would really be nitpicking about?

Still, I am open for debate. I doubt I'd be making a purchase today.
The only thing break-in has to do with is calibration. Some people like to use the exact same break-in slides to age the plasma so that they can plug the same settings in that a pro TV calibrator has came up with for a certain panel.

Your plasma will burn off some phosphors for the first 100 hrs or so that you have it on. You can still watch Tv, play games, watch movies, etc. It is only just recommended that you CALIBRATE your TV after the break in period so that the settings you put in are correct. If you calibrate on Day 1 before you age the phosphors, those settings won't hold weight 2 weeks later after the phosphors have aged.


TL;DR - use your TV normally for a week before you calibrate to your final settings.
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The only thing break-in has to do with is calibration. Some people like to use the exact same break-in slides to age the plasma so that they can plug the same settings in that a pro TV calibrator has came up with for a certain panel.

Your plasma will burn off some phosphors for the first 100 hrs or so that you have it on. You can still watch Tv, play games, watch movies, etc. It is only just recommended that you CALIBRATE your TV after the break in period so that the settings you put in are correct. If you calibrate on Day 1 before you age the phosphors, those settings won't hold weight 2 weeks later after the phosphors have aged.


TL;DR - use your TV normally for a week before you calibrate to your final settings.

Hmmm... afaik the first 150-200 hours = highest susceptibility to burn ins/IRs.

Oh well... kinda late I guess..

I went to Frys today. Planned to just look around. Went to a clerk.. their pathetic internet system WILL NOT let them see their Ad sites (so you can check good deals)..

Accidentally saw the LG 47LK520 for 599.99 just over the clerk's shoulder!

I was like ***! WOAH! I asked to be brought to the unit.. poor clerk brought me to the 42 incher model for 580 bucks.. I bugged him and said "Hey, lets check your stocks again"..

BOOM!

LG 47LK520 599.99 Brand New! 4th Letter's a Y = IPS

I think that was a steal for that BB has it for 799.99 and Amazon for 760
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