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I am wondering anybody else is having the same problem. I am not overclocking the CPU, just using the default setting by the BIOS.

For the FOURTH time in 7 months, the MSI motherboard just die on me again. All 4 times, the symptom was exactly the same. I am wondering what is the real problem and whether it is worth while to fix this problem if it just going to fail in another 1-2 months. Please let me know if you are having the same issue and what you think is wrong with this system? (Motherboard design, perhaps?)

I built this PC about 7 months ago, other than a few minor issues, the system worked fine Each time, the system just die out of a sudden as if someone just turn off the power supply. After that, when I press the start button - all fans (on processor, case, PS) will spin for a split of second and stop. ( The LEDs too will be turned on and off during that time) Subsequent pressing on start button produce nothing. Only after turning power off by flipping switch on PS or unplugging the cord from electrical outlet and plugging it back makes the system attempt to start again. But then again... all fans (on processor, case, PS) spin for a split of a second and stop...there were no video input on the monitor(s).

I also noticed that the system behaves differently if I remove the ATX(12V, 2x4)) connector. All the fans and leds will continue to run/lit, but there is no video signal. During this time, 12V is measured on the ATX harness connector . (Wondering whether there is a way for me to check whether the 12v circuitry on the motherboard is shorted..?) Could the VRM on the board is dead?


System Configurations:

CPU: AMD Phenom II x6 1075T
Heat sink/fan: AMD, provided with processor
Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
Memory: 2x4 GB DDR3, Corsair
Video Card: EVGA 210 (3x)
Hard Drive: Hitachi 1TB
CDRW: Memorex 24X DVDRW
Case: CM HAF 912
Power supply: Thermaltake TR2 650W.
Monitor: Asus VE247H
Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech cordless
OS: Windows 7

Please let me know if there is any compatibility problem here. If you have the same motherboard and you know if work well with a specific vendor power supply, I would like to know that too. THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY ASSISTANCE.

THIS HAS BEEN A REAL NIGHTMARE!!!!

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post #2 of 24
Are you trying to overclock? Because if you are, wrong board for a Thuban I've had nothing but problems with mine in the past, but leaving voltages at/near stock solved most of them. It may look like a beastly board, but under that heatsink is a wimpy power delivery system.
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Hi jellis142: I am not overclocking. I am just running at 3.0GHz set by the BIOS for Phenom II x6 1075T, whatever code name that is. Thanks for your reply.
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It's dead VRM's on the board. 4+1 phase horrible MSI quality, on an x6 CPU (even at stock). That board honestly can't handle anything more than a 95w Athlon II.

Your PSU could also have helped this issue along, although you don't really have a huge 12v load going on there with only a GT210 installed.
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The 790fx MSI boards are known for VRM's that won't take a load.Give MSI a call and see if they can rma it with a 890fxa board.the vrm's are a bit better on those.It is also comes out the box 6 core ready.
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Originally Posted by jellis142 View Post
Are you trying to overclock? Because if you are, wrong board for a Thuban I've had nothing but problems with mine in the past, but leaving voltages at/near stock solved most of them. It may look like a beastly board, but under that heatsink is a wimpy power delivery system.
Yea I agree, The board has very few power phases. Most MSI Motherboards are known for this issue, even the high-end ones often have only a 4+1 power phase causing one of the power-phase to fry or break because of too much load. The board will probably have problems with any Phenom x6, even if it states in specs that they're supported. I guess you're going to have to RMA it.
    
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It's dead VRM's on the board. 4+1 phase horrible MSI quality, on an x6 CPU (even at stock). That board honestly can't handle anything more than a 95w Athlon II.

Your PSU could also have helped this issue along, although you don't really have a huge 12v load going on there with only a GT210 installed.
I've been running my Phenom 955 at 4.0GHz for about a year now, no problems.
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HAHAHAHa lol a 4+1 and it has that big heat sink, how sad. Sorry you had to learn the hard way as i did it sucks but, if you steer clear of msi and or more importantly use the OCN VRM listing to make sure your boards are solid you will do better in the future.
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The board has very few power phases.
That doesn't make a motherboard bad. It's more about quality than quantity. MSI isn't known for either though when it comes to their VRMs.

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Originally Posted by ZainyAntics View Post
I've been running my Phenom 955 at 4.0GHz for about a year now, no problems.
And there is a long list of people with similar set ups who have blown their 'fets. What's your point?
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Yeah this board does not do well for people with 6 cores, though people get away with slight overclocking. Not sure why your boards are blowing up at stock.

Make sure you have all your settings manually configured and not at auto, or else the board may try to use up more voltage than needed and that's what causes the fried VRMs. You should also try undervolting your CPU voltage as I can go from 1.4v(stock) to 1.26v with my x4 @ 3.2ghz.

My board is happy with my x4 @ 4ghz/1.46v. So it might depend on your boards' VRMs. I would definitely upgrade your CPU cooling though, as that could help with overall temps.
    
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