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i3 2100 vs. Phenom ii x4 840 for CAD and PS

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I know I know not to compare the architecture of intel and amd and all but budget wise, I'm limited to about $380-$400 and I need something with at least capabilities to do those two mentioned above smoothly.

the three things I have problems on are which cpu, which mobo chipset and which graphics card can i fit into a total budget of $230-$270?

It's mostly used for mainstream home work and a few gaming, max is probably Need For Speed Shift 2. Which do i choose? confused.gif

Thanks in advance for the help. . .
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The i3 2100 is the better choice since it has the same amount of thread (4) although it only has 2 physical cores but core for core, it is faster although I'm not sure but I sincerely doubt even the Phenom 2 x4 980 is faster than an i3 2100. For the motherboard, look for an H67 board within your budget and than the best graphics card with the rest. You could also save some money by getting an AMD APU like the A8-3850 which is only 140$ and has an integrated graphics processor which which will beat the low-end discrete cards you would get anyway for your budget and is similar in terms of processing power (it's basically a tweaked Phenom 2 x4) although it's still not as fast. All around I believe it would be better.

Like that:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131713
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127557

About 265$ with MIR.

Or that:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103942
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128511

About 240$
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AMD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103921

=$245

Intel:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131708
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

=$254

I would go with the AMD option as you then have the 2 extra cores, as for GPU, you will be hard pushed finding something to fit in with you budget after the mobo and processor purchase. Why don't you stick with your existing mobo and get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809

Then you will have more budget for a GPU?
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but would the 2 extra cores help in without the added discrete graphics?
What if I stick to my current rig and just swap out the Graphics card?
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Originally Posted by rebecca_elm;14267645 
but would the 2 extra cores help in without the added discrete graphics?
What if I stick to my current rig and just swap out the Graphics card?

How about you keep your current rig, get a Phenom II X4 955 ( $120) and a new gpu. Maybe a Asus EAH6850 ($180) or a Asus ENGTX560 ($200)

Now you can play all the games you want.
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For CAD, I think the X4 would be the better option (as the performance gain from HT on the intel is only 30% of what an actual physical core can provide). For photoshop, it will entirely depend on what you're doing with it--whether the faster clock-for-clock speed of the i3 would be beneficial vs. the extra physical cores of the X4.

Personally (I'm no fanboy, and have used both intel and AMD pretty equally for a while), I'd get the i3 for an all-around use, which is what I think you mean you'll be using it for. The faster stock speed will be more noticeable than the extra two physical cores of the X4 for pretty much most regular tasks.
    
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the x4 840 is a Propus core if i am not wrong with no L3 cache so basically its like an Athlon..if your going AMD atleast get an x4 955 BE.

Its simple really...if your more into gaming then i3 is the way to go..if you use apps that can do with the extra core, then 955 is a better choice. As an i3 user i would recommend it but my primary concern was gaming which might not be yours.

If you go intel then you can get a cheap H61/H67(if you want usb 3.0) as you can't OC the cpu anyways unless your gonna upgrade to a better cpu. If your getting the 955 then you already have a compatible mobo and then you can spend the rest of a good GPU like the 6950.
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how's your Asus board treating you then?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotsae;14267753 
How about you keep your current rig, get a Phenom II X4 955 ( $120) and a new gpu. Maybe a Asus EAH6850 ($180) or a Asus ENGTX560 ($200)

Now you can play all the games you want.
This. I'd switch out the CPU for a 965 though. And also the GPU for a 6770 to fit in his $270 budget.
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121468
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Photoshop will work better with the i3, since it works well with Intel's architecture.

As for CAD, it depends what program you use.
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